I had to buy a printer recently. I intentionally went through all the information i could to find out which manufacturers pull this trick and bought their competitor instead.
If you need a inkjet printer buy one with an ink tank. Like Epson’s EcoTank line. Much cheaper in the long run, since 3rd party refill bottles are super cheap.
Hold up, HP printers don’t let you SCAN without ink? You can make up some believable bs argument about why DRM ink is necessary, but there’s no way you can convince anyone that scanning needs ink.
I didn’t have a wide array of choices, as I had a selection of printers in front of me at a brick and mortar store, but I went with the Brother HL-L2325DW. They offer a subscription (I don’t mind an optional convenience and monetization method) but they don’t disable your printer or force you to buy it.
It came with a full sized toner cartridge at about 3,000 pages compared to the “demo cartridge” most printers will give you with the unit, and it worked out of the Box with CUPS and Linux, and was supported by Brother for Windows and Mac.
Wildly enough there was a Linux utility too from Brother, but I didn’t need it.
Funny, I knew it was going to be a Brother from your first post. Glad to see the confirmation. I still have am HP from like 2016 which they started doing firmware updates to lock ink to their official brand only so I couldn’t buy 3rd party. I had to roll back the firmware and removed the default gateway address to keep it from getting out to the internet and possibly updating again. I have made 1 3rd party ink purchase and been using it ever since. Printer works great still. The day it breaks will be the day I stop using HP going forward. I still can’t believe they pulled that, and now this.
Yeah, I used to have a lot of goodwill for HP. They used to be good print quality at a good price. I remember many print projects I was stupid proud of with HP, but after I fell out of printer use and saw what they had been up to, from initially shorting the included cartridges to using DRM to lock out perfectly good cartridges, I vowed I wouldn’t buy a product of theirs for myself when I did need one again.
On a side note, I just realized you said “an HP” and it made me realize that an is usually used before vowels but H isn’t a vowel, but it was grammatically correct to the ear, but ambiguously correct on ‘paper’ when it dawned on me that we say HP as “Ay-tch Pee” and it suddenly made so much sense, and I wondered if there was a name for that exception in English.
I have an old Brother that I inherited from my mother… I had to buy toner once (I use it 5 years). It just works. I am really glad to hear that the company didn’t turn evil like (almost?) all other.
+1 for Brother HL printers. 2 toner bars got me through 3 years of nursing school.
If I need something printed in color, I'll just let a professional do it.
They've got color laser printers too, just bought a HL-L3290CDW last week to replace my roommate's cheap Canon printer that I got tired troubleshooting every time we needed to print something. Absolute monster of a print device: color laser printer+scanner+copier+fax machine and a seamless printing process to boot.
And it's extremely easy. Upload the PDF, wait for your mail. Thanks. The last time I needed something printed in colour was years ago, and the money and hassle I saved myself by buying a monochrome laser printer isn't offset by this one print job I had to pay for.
I have even gone one step further I don’t have a printer at all. If I want anything printed, I will either do it when I’m at the office or get it printed by a stationary store for a small fee (like .05 USD per A4 page in local currency where I live).
I can count with one hand how many times I needed hard copies in the past couple of years.
I hate multifunction printers. They try to do everything but end up sucking at doing everything.
I ended up getting a separate, high speed Fujitsu scanner with built in auto file naming and OCR and it’s been fantastic. I can just scan in all the things and shred them. Less paperwork cluttering the place.
Oh damn well if 2 people are doing it in your industry, printers must be useless to everyone!
When I worked in the field I carried a laptop but still mostly worked off of paper. Paper-sized ectronics are pretty useless on ladders and plans are too hard to read on a phone. Paper can also fold and go in a pocket
You missunderstood, one is a psychiatrist, the other a social-something. I just say it’s a thing already.
No, i don’t see how paper is a neccesity in your examples. And i did work in a company for a while, creating software for phones/tablets/notebooks for exatly those usecases, optimizing workflows in industry. Especially plans can be vastly more useful in digital form, look up IFC format.
And i did work in a company for a while, creating software for phones/tablets/notebooks for exatly those usecases, optimizing workflows in industry. Especially plans can be vastly more useful in digital form, look up IFC format.
No, they don’t. And they won’t, unless they work on a dirty construction site on top of a ladder wearing protective gloves themselves. Or have to actually use plans.
And i did work in a company for a while, creating software for phones/tablets/notebooks for exatly those usecases, optimizing workflows in industry. Especially plans can be vastly more useful in digital form, look up IFC format.
No, they don’t. And they won’t, unless they work on a dirty construction site on top of a ladder wearing protective gloves themselves. Or have to actually use plans.
i dunno. i genuinely can’t remember the last thing i had to print out. maybe some expense claim forms in 2019 before the pandemic accelerated paperless processes? can’t think of any after that.
I mean I only use my own printer once a year at most but plenty of other people still have to print things personally and professionally for various reasons. Many printed things can be replaced by technology but not everything. Fax was just a way to get information from one place to another - every single part of what it does is done better and easier with email and other tech
It's scary because there is an incredible amount of data that can be gained just by knowing when your lights are turning on and off (when people leave/return for the day and when they're on vacation are examples). Combine that with information on what IP Address the app is reporting from and you may be able to get a decent bit of location data even without officially querying for location.
Without an account, potentially having this information is bad enough but mandating an account and then having it tied to your email address is worse (since most people aren't going to make a per-service address).
Right now, my Hue hub is prevented from accessing the Internet and everything using the local API works without issue, except the app is trying to force a TOS agreement and without agreeing I cant do anything with the official app (add/remove devices, adjust on/off state, adjust brightness, etc...). Home Assistant control works, so, my lights still come on automatically based on my motion sensors and my light switches through HA will still turn them on and off and adjust brightness and all that ... If I were relying on the official app though, I'd have no choice but to agree to their TOS or would now have to take all the bulbs out.
This really sucks because I paid a shit ton for these bulbs vs their competitors because I liked that they allowed local control natively without needing to mess around with anything to get it to work and had a quality product ... Had I known this would happen I definitely would not have paid the hefty surcharge I did and would have gone with a competing product.
This really sucks because I paid a shit ton for these bulbs vs their competitors because I liked that they allowed local control natively without needing to mess around with anything to get it to work and had a quality product ... Had I known this would happen I definitely would not have paid the hefty surcharge I did and would have gone with a competing product.
I personally know others who made the same decision. Sounds like a class action suit, similar to when Sony removed the ability to install linux from the PS3.
I have a 12 year old laser printer that I got for $3 from a garage sale and I’m riding this baby into the ground. Every year or two I get some generic toner for about $15.
Yeah, jokes on them. My win10 license lives happily and immutably as a virtual install that I start up every now and then when I need to configure my guitar pedal. Everything else works flawlessly with the penguin, and has so for years now. I sometimes miss having to tinker with my system but it hasn’t been necessary for a long time now…
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