Tech Billionaires Launch Fund to Create New Libertarian Societies

More efforts from tech bros to build Rapture.

Interesting quotes:

it had backing from tech heavyweights such as billionaire Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong, AngelList co-founder Naval Ravikant, and venture capitalist** Fred Wilson**, a Coinbase board member who sold his shares in the company for $1.8 billion after it went public in 2021.

“Bitcoin, if it wins, completely changes the world, because it changes the ability of centralized states to do what they’ve been doing,” Srinivisan said in a presentation delivered to a Bitcoin conference in Amsterdam in October.

The Bitcoin-based Network State will be based on “internet values” such as “open source” and “peer-to-peer,” Srinivasan has written.

An utopia run on Bitcoin? What could possibly go wrong?

thefluffiest,

Lets just call them what they are, oligarchs

sculd,

I feel like they are more dangerous than oligarchs.

Look at Russian oligarchs. They don’t try to change the world. They know they are not welcomed so just buy properties at London, buy yachts, etc. and then enjoy what they have.

Tech libertarians seem to view themselves as savior of the world and attempts to change it (for the worse).

luciole,
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Add that whiff of eugenics from the pronatalism mixed with the longtermism and, if they get what they want, we have something closer to good old blue blood monarchs.

sculd,

After some reading about Longtermism, it is one of the most bizarre, heartless ideology I have seen.

It basically tells you to not care about your surroundings and the things that exist now.

drwho,
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schmorpel,

‘Tech Billionaires give all wealth away to end world hunger.’ ‘Tech Billionaires lobby for wealth tax with national governments.’ ‘Tech Billionaires realize they are normal people like anyone else, not super smart world-saving geniuses, and finally shut the fuck up.’

Now these would be news.

gatelike,

this comment made me feel the draw of dillusional thought, it felt good to read those fake headlines and I didn’t want it to stop

raccoona_nongrata,
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  • Admetus,

    Quick! Call the press!

    AnneBonny,

    Srinivasan has floated the car-free Culdesac private community in Tempe and the Peter Thiel-backed Próspera in Honduras as examples of currently-existing proto-Network States.

    “Suppose you found a new startup society like Culdesac on the basis of car-free living…which is an innovation in parallel transportation.

    Is “fuck cars” libertarian?

    GregorGizeh,

    Maybe in a twisted thought process: privatized public transport for the masses, and because the rich have no actual restrictions in reality, I’m sure they can drive a car if they want to.

    sculd,

    Good question. Since “libertarian” in practice always becomes some form of authoritarian state. They just jumped a few steps ahead.

    On the other hand though, car-free city sounds so nice.

    AnneBonny,

    “libertarian” in practice always becomes some form of authoritarian state.

    What has been libertarian in practice?

    explodicle,

    Nearly all pollution violates the NAP

    drwho,
    @drwho@beehaw.org avatar

    And yet…

    Banzai51,
    @Banzai51@midwest.social avatar

    Until a Libertarian decides he wants to drive a car. You can’t expect discipline from these assholes.

    DarthYoshiBoy,
    DarthYoshiBoy avatar

    My favorite Libertarian society experiment. I mean, it's the only one that I'm aware of, but that it ended about as well as you'd expect is just fantastic.

    sculd,

    The bear one. Yes the classic!

    pipows,
    @pipows@lemmy.today avatar

    As a libertarian, I don’t trust these billionaires a single bit to do it.

    They are not libertarians, they don’t care about the free market, small local business, regulatory and certification companies, or what else. They are very happy to lobby the government to enforce any anticompetitive practices that will benefit them in the long run. They probably just want a new way to evade taxes, they don’t give two fucks about libertarianism.

    Sadly, tech bros won’t see through it and will hype anything these clowns do.

    todwest,
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    @sculd 'Libertarian society' is the political equivalent of 'jumbo shrimp.'

    timo21,
    @timo21@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

    @sculd freaking Ayn Rand cult strikes again. These 1%ers think they are THE new world order. Regulations are needed to protect our basic human rights from these folks. To piss them off, just say "you didn't build that" .

    sculd,

    Yea, Atlas Shrugged really presented a very naive and simplistic world view that cannot work in real life. The capitalists all fuck off to build a city? Who is going to build them? Right. The workers. The workers that they despise.

    nilsskirnir,
    @nilsskirnir@kolektiva.social avatar

    @sculd We have corrupt states and corrupt billionaires. Neither is good

    sculd,

    Neither are good but if I have to choose one…Corrupt state usually need to pretend they are doing good. Billionaires just say fuck you

    nilsskirnir,
    @nilsskirnir@kolektiva.social avatar

    @sculd
    Human societies have periodically tried Plutocracy. It never ends well, usually ended in warlord periods, famines, servility for the masses, and mass slavery.

    CmdrShepard,
    sculd,

    Hey! Behind the Bastards is really a great podcast! I listened to this episode and its hilarious!

    GiddyGap,

    No society should accept billionaires. There are so many other people who are in dire need. It makes zero difference if they have a billion or a 100 million.

    MummifiedClient5000,

    Cancer on society decides to form a tumour.

    Titan,

    Libertarians are just conservatives who are ok with weed and gay people

    interolivary, (edited )
    @interolivary@beehaw.org avatar

    The only libertarian I personally know is anti-LGBT+, just not as rabidly outspoken about it as a “regular” conservative. He’s the sort who’d be happy with gay people being murdered on the streets as long as he doesn’t have to do it himself

    sculd,

    That is my observation as well. When it really comes to personal liberty they don’t really care. Remember that libertarian tech bro like Peter Thiel (who is gay btw) somehow thought the world is “too woke” and continues to fund conservative politicians taking away gay rights.

    NattyNatty2x4,

    Hey now that’s not all they are. A concerning number of them also don’t like statutory rape laws

    Titan,

    Now that’s a true marketplace! (Feels weird to even joke about it)

    teawrecks,

    Of course “libertarian” here is code for “oligarchy”, because they know modern libertarians in the US are aggressively apathetic, will let them get away with anything, and thus form a perfect base to appeal to and dominate.

    RotaryKeyboard,
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    I give them three months before the new society collapses due to arguments over age of consent.

    ulkesh,
    @ulkesh@beehaw.org avatar

    Libertarians (n., plural) - Sooo…. Conservatives.

    Perhaps they can take all the asshole Republicans (leaving the reasonable ones…I know, not many left) with them and we can be left with a society that doesn’t suck and is instead filled with leadership that may have opposing viewpoints, but are willing to compromise — like, you know, mature, scientific, educated adults would.

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