Overzeetop,
Overzeetop avatar

This feels like a CableTV sponsored ad. My local CableTV provider is around $50/mo for their cheapest package, which is 10 low tier channels and broadcast TV. Their full package - which includes the streaming service content - is over $300/mo. And that's the promotional rate for new subscribers; it's probably $100-150 more after your promo period is up.

ScrivenerX,

This is a lousy article rehashing an article behind a paywall.

The cost they have is $87 a month. There is so much that’s confusing about this. They don’t specify how many streaming services they are counting in that, but it’s a good guess that is about 5, each at about $17 a month. I feel I have too many streaming services and share accounts with family, and I can stream from about 7, pay for one and watch 1.5. If I couldn’t share accounts, I wouldn’t have the accounts. I pretty much watch star trek and whatever show someone tells me to watch.

They also don’t specify what $87 a month gets you in cable. Around me that’s about basic cable prices, which is significantly less content presented in a less convenient format and is almost entirely reruns filled to brim with commercials.

Not only is the article missing key information it also misrepresents the information it has.

Note: I’m sure people will tell me to pirate everything, but there are reasons to not pirate. And it doesn’t address that this is a poorly written article giving incomplete and incorrect information.

greybeard,

Personally, the lack of ads is a big one for me. I will not watch ad filled content. Any time I’m on vacation and turn on a hotel TV and have to deal with ads it is so frustrating. Especially now that content is made for streaming, so there aren’t logical ad breaks in the story. Just random hard cuts in the middle of content.

_Tom_,

Yeah I’m curious how they get that number. I look at it as my math is Internet ($50)+Hulu Bundle ($21)+Prime($12) is $83/mo

cheesemonk,

Can they really count internet costs which most people would need even if they weren’t streaming?

redeyejedi,

Great point. I guess there’s maybe someone that doesn’t need internet in there home. But the average person these days can’t function without it.

_Tom_,

I was doing it to try to make their claim seem sane. Are people really on 4-5 streaming services?

cheesemonk,

There definitely are. My partner has Netflix, Prime, Peacock, and the Disney plus bundle. I feel like it isn’t that uncommon of a scenario tbh.

ramblinguy,

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/b150a5bd-858a-4b54-829e-cc7fda085dbd.webp

I have access to Financial Times, and this is what they showed in their article

JoYo,
@JoYo@lemmy.ml avatar

people that pirate give advertising its power.

pay your content creators and don’t tolerate ads.

thatsnothowyoudoit,
@thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca avatar

A bit odd that the article doesn’t mention advertising on cable/sat/fiber/traditional(?) media delivery into the home.

The single biggest draw, to me, isn’t that I can watch when I want (that’s second). It’s not having to spend my time watching ads. Life is just better without someone trying to sell me something for 20 minutes out of every hour.

I’m willing to pay for that privilege.

I value my time - or at least the opportunity to spend it how I want when I’m not making someone already rich, even richer.

snooggums,
snooggums avatar

Of you don't watch a ton of content then spending about $20 or less a month to have some media with no ads is already massively better than cable.

Sendbeer,

Well, to be fair they are counting streaming ad free versions against cable tvs ad ridden service. Not exactly apples to apples is it. I helped my brother move this weekend and they put Apollo 13 on for my mom to watch (on DIRECTTV Paramount channel). It was still on when we finished. Fucking unwatchable.

But yeah, streaming is starting to not look like such a bargain. And it’s going to get worse no doubt. But I quit cable, and I can quit streaming as well. Not sure I even need to pirate, plenty of other low cost entertainment options.

sexy_peach,

lmao “innovation”. Fuck big tech.

DJVIIIMan,

I’m still paying a lot less for my streaming apps than I was for Direct TV. A lot less.

MystikIncarnate,

The whole of the TV industry has lost their damn minds. I saw this shit coming when studios started pulling their content from Netflix without any obvious reason, sure enough, they all made their own version of Netflix and turned it into an idiotic turf war. The only ones that are losing, are the users.

But this is par for the course, looking back, TV started over the air, it was the only feasible way to deliver fast scan image content with sound to a large number of people. First for news, but eventually, for other entertainment content, but people need to make money, so ads. So many ads.

Anyways, cable comes along, now you can get perfect reception of all the ad filled stations all day every day, and we’ll even throw in stations you wouldn’t otherwise be able to receive, just pay us for the privilege of getting the ads.

Rinse and repeat for every cable or TV technology or service. Pay us for ads. Justify it how you want, that’s what’s happening.

Streaming enters the market, finally, no ads… Streaming wars. Now your favorite shows are on entirely different platforms… Is there a new stranger things? Go check Netflix, nope, nothing new here, what about the mandalorian? Go log into dickney+ and see… Nothing here, ok, let’s go over to paramount+ or MAX or whatever… Oh, by the way, we all cost more than your cable, but at least there’s no ads…

Meanwhile OTA still exists, and you don’t have to pay for it. Everyone not going OTA, is ending up on the pirate ship. Yo ho ho, me maties!

_number8_,

OTA rules; locast was too beautiful for this world

jwagner7813,

Always been part of the plan: de regulate, corner the market, profit.

saltedFish,

Back to piracy for me. I can always wait a while after release for the torrent to appear

turmacar,

Honestly at least for popular shows the wait seems to be measured in minutes.

Even for the less popular there’s a legion of data hoarders / completionists that’ll probably be seeding.

ultratiem,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

I think this article wreaks of corporate backsludge. The entire premise operates under the notion that these services are expensive to sustain and expensive to furnish.

But let’s not forget that they took the lions share of their content from pre existing IPs that were already paid for (millions times over from grossing numbers alone). They are taking the Lion King you grew up, and reselling it back to you. They’ve done this after every technological generational shift. VHS to CD to BR to Digital. Same Lion King.

Just because they want to boost profits 10,000% every quarter does not mean it’s anything more than an entirely artificial metric.

To me I read this as we need to make people more docile and accepting of the penetration. “Oh right, I guess it was always coming” is a much more flaccid mind set than being pissed over the arrogant corporate greed.

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

To be fair, there is a new Lion King.

But I’d rather have the old one and understand if you forgot it on purpose.

theothermatt_b,

By the end of this, my only subscription will be to dropout.tv

Phegan,

Back to sailing the seven seas.

Retrograde,
@Retrograde@lemmy.world avatar

Yarrrrrr

ScaNtuRd,

I only have 2 words in response to this: qBitTorrent, Jellyfin

flagellum,

Can you recommend any good resources in getting started with those alternatives? I haven’t raised the Jolly Roger since 2002.

Retrograde,
@Retrograde@lemmy.world avatar

I too would like to learn more about Jellyfin

AdamHenry,

I need to go down the rabbit hole and figure out what lurks in the depths. When I switched over from PS to Xbox, the clerk that was helping me out joked that I was switching over to the dark side. In retrospect, that was like moving from mayonaise to another brand of mayonnaise.

jenniebuckley,
@jenniebuckley@lemmy.world avatar

just pirate it lol

ultratiem,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m actually good with pirating being a small time affair 🤫

MossBear,

They can’t even begin to comprehend my ability to just re-watch 90’s sci-fi.

ZodiacSF1969,

I want to re-watch Sliders.

MossBear,

That’s one of the few I haven’t seen yet. It’s going on the list!

ZodiacSF1969,

I loved it as a kid, I used to run around the playground with my friends pretending to slide through different dimensions 🤣

djmarcone,

I’ve got tears in my fro…

MajorHavoc,

That’s the part that’s wild to me - media companies acting like they sell gas or food and I’m going to buy it no matter what.

I would love to claim my integrity is why I don’t turn to piracy. But the reality is that Stargate had a lot of great seasons on DVD.

MossBear,

Indeed.

frippa, (edited )
@frippa@lemmy.ml avatar

If anybody is interested: an old workstation/server costs about 100€, a 2TB external Hdd 50€, that’s about all you need to self-host your Netflix.

to proceed flash a Linux distro of your choice (I recommend Debian 12 stable) follow a tutorial on YT on how to install it, it’s very simple.

Download and configure jellyfin. Open the 8096/8099 port on your router.

If you live in a country where downloading “Linux ISOs” is frowned upon, be sure to use a VPN while downloading the latest Linux Mint release for your jellyfin server.

Load those fancy new kali Linux live CDs on your jellyfin servers, download clients for all your devices and enjoy!

Guides for everything I said can be found online, expecially on YouTube.

Just to add: jellyfin is free and open source: you know it does not spy on you and it does not build a profile on you to then sell your data to ad companies, a huge plus if you ask me.

SharpMaxwell,

if only jellyfin worked on the old hd apple tvs, videos just dont play for whatever reason

frippa,
@frippa@lemmy.ml avatar

Does it give u an error like “media not supported by client” or something like that? If so - I’m not an expert- but you may need to enable video transcoding of smthing like that

SharpMaxwell,

nah it just has a black screen and wont play, no loading icon or anything. video says its being played from the admin panel, i googled it and other people are having issues with it, almost 2 months old and hasnt been fixed yet, luckily you can still play videos if you use infuse but that client isnt open source

FeelzGoodMan420,

Just curious, is jellyfin only linux?

frippa,
@frippa@lemmy.ml avatar

Nope, you can host it on windows if you want (although I recommend the stability of a Linux system) as for supported clients, windows, Linux, MacOS, Android, iOS, Android auto, Android TV, Apple TV, and much more.

FeelzGoodMan420,

Can you explain how it’s the same and how it’s different then Plex? I’ve never really looked into jellyfin but I’ve heard good things.

frippa,
@frippa@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t really have experience with plex (I only used jellyfin) but AFAIK plex has ads, collects data and has paid plans, although their UI should be nicer, something you could circumvent with custom CSS (freely aviable on jellyfin’s site) there are many plex vs jellyfin comparisons online, but as far as I understood jellyfin is just FOSS self hosted plex with a slightly worse UI and maybe less device compatibility (still a lot of it, considering it’s a FOSS small project not backed by companies)

ScaNtuRd,

Why would it be “frowned upon” to download Linux ISOs in any country? There’s nothing illegal about it

frippa,
@frippa@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t know if it’s a r/whoooosh, but “Linux ISOs” is a way to refer to pirated content. You download movies, music, shows etc and then put it on your jellyfin server. It comes from the fact that downloading Linux ISOs is pretty much the only legal use case for a bit torrent client

Covfefe,

I personally use Kodi with Seren and a Real Debrid sub(£15 for 6 months is great) .It’s basically Netflix but has pretty much everything.

frippa,
@frippa@lemmy.ml avatar

Really want to get into real debrid, can you ELI5 it to me?

hungofhydra,

Real-Debrid is one of Debrid services. To summary what Debrid services does is that it downloads the file for you.

You know Mega ? You know hexashare? All the file host service that limit your download with very low speed and only allow you to download only 1 file every hours or so without paying 10 USD for a premium account? Real-debrid bypasses most of them.

First real-debrid will use their own premium account to download the file for you (completely legal) to their server with their ultra-high speed. It’s only take a second for them to download 100GB. And they will share the file to you so you can download it to your computer so there is no previous mentioned restriction. Think of Real-Debrid like a middleman, multi-purpose middleman because Real-Debrid supports multiple host such as Mediafire, FileFactory, RapidGator, so on. So instead of paying every website 10 USD for a premium account, you can just pay 5 USD for Read-Debrid account and use it to download files on almost every popular file host website.

Moreover, Real-Debrid also supports download Torrent (without seeding back). With their high-speed download, you can watch movie via torrent seamlessly. That’s why most buy Real-Debrid just to watch movie using both Real-Debrid and Stremio.

TBi,

I like OpenMediaVault (based on Debian) with a few docker images… really helps :)

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