pennomi,

I run a little webcomics hosting platform and I really want to do the same thing, just haven’t taken the time to do it yet. Seems like an obvious win so everyone can follow along using the platform of their choosing.

Black_Gulaman,
@Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It would be amazing if we could have a “WordPress community of the day/week” bot so we could discover them.

This is so exciting.

BonesOfTheMoon,

I miss the ‘next blog’ button on Blogspot that would randomly take you to another blog. It was great.

Chunk,

Can you follow rss feeds on the fediverse?

possiblylinux127,

That’s not WordPress.org

sirico,
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar
Geert,
@Geert@lemmy.world avatar

Care to elaborate?

Lord_ToRA,
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

WordPress.com is different from the open-source software WordPress (WordPress.org)

Lord_ToRA, (edited )
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

Fuck WordPress.com. They intentionally lead people to conflate the free and open-source software WordPress (WordPress.org) and their own proprietary and overpriced version.

You can’t install plugins on their platform until you pay them $40/mo ($25/mo if you pay annually). That’s one of the most expensive WordPress hosting out there and it’s a completely different proprietary version with less access and control than you’d find elsewhere for far less.

WormFood,

the same organisation makes both, they just release a subset of their work as the open source version of WordPress. it’s a pretty standard business model for this kind of software

Lord_ToRA,
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

That is incorrect. Automattic donates some work to the open-source project, but they are in no way the same thing.

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Man this is like saying proton isn’t made by Valve… Matt Mullenweg was one of the cocreators of Wordpress and went on to start Automattic which is a pun on his name. He’s literally got (or at least had) the title of lead developer in the Worldpress Foundation and he’s CEO of Automattic.

Lord_ToRA,
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t say it’s not “made by”, they clearly contribute plenty, just like many others. The issue is that a non-profit entity should not be used as an advertising platform giving preferential treatment to a single for-profit business.

The WordPress Foundation clearly states that you can’t use the name WordPress in your domain or business name nor use the logo for your business (wordpressfoundation.org/trademark-policy/) yet that is what Automattic does and Automattic or WordPress.com is not the same entity as the WordPress Foundation or WordPress.org. That is illegal and unethical.

LogarithmicCamel,

If you own a name, you can grant anyone you want permission to use that name. It’s not illegal.

Lord_ToRA,
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

Not when you are a non-profit. You cannot run a non-profit in a way that only provides special benefits to a person or group and exclude others.

blazeknave,

Donates some work? They open source the platform. You can pay for hosting at .com… honestly asking, what are you even mad about?

Lord_ToRA,
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

Because WordPress.org is a non-profit that is clearly being treated as a puppet for the WordPress.com for-profit business. It’s not just “they also open-source their software”. They are separate entities. It’s literally illegal and obviously unethical.

blazeknave,

What laws are being broken? You use adverbs like “clearly” and “obviously” to make your point but they’re not helpful. It’s not obvious. What is unethical?

Lord_ToRA,
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

Nonprofit organizations are not allowed to divert undue benefits to any person or organization.

https://www.boardeffect.com/blog/government-regulations-nonprofit-organizations/

It is obvious and clear if you know the bare minimum of non-profit organizations.

Do you actually not understand the basics of non-profit organizations? If so, I’m not sure why you’re butting into a conversation about the subject. Otherwise you must be arguing in bad faith.

blazeknave,

No, not in bad faith. Look at the comment vote counts if you think I’m being provocative about a minority opinion.

Mozilla Corp is a subsidiary of the non profit. They put money in it. Wtf are you talking about?

I think “undue” is subjective and you’re inserting your opinions.

Lord_ToRA,
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

Comment votes are meaningless considering no one can tell if the people voting are even qualified to weigh in. Do you think the votes on r/the_donald mattered? That is the appeal to popularity fallacy

You bring up Mozilla as an example but make no effort to explain how it’s similar.

No one is allowed to use the WordPress trademark or logo for their business, except for one company. That for-profit company is not owned or run by the non-profit and the only connection is the owner/founder/CEO. Please provide some logic or reasoning why that is not an undue benefit.

blazeknave,

Dude stop. You’re calling me out for bad faith but look what you’re doing. Everything you’re writing in direct response to something I’ve shared, you’re misdirecting from the intent.

Lord_ToRA,
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

I literally brought it back to WordPress and I was asking you to explain how your Mozilla example was relevant to the main point regarding WordPress.

It’s now very apparent that you’re intentionally acting in bad faith, because I can’t believe you could say something so obviously false otherwise.

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Feels like the typical “I shouldn’t have to spend money for things!!!” attitude that goes around on here.

Lord_ToRA,
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

WordPress is a free and open-source software provided by a non-profit organization. WordPress.com is a for-profit business and a completely separate entity. What Automattic is doing is illegal and unethical.

TheOneWithTheHair, (edited )
@TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world avatar

I found one under communities so far and if you’re curious it’s !pfefferle.wordpress.com@pfefferle.wordpress.com It appears to work just like any other community.

However, when I commented, it didn’t appear on his Wordpress blog but it did appear under “community post”. He had a comment on his blog that didn’t appear in the community. It might be an issue of synchronization?

Crul,

Not sure if it’s a typo or a front-end rendering issue. But I see your link wrong. The correct one would be:
!pfefferle.wordpress.com@pfefferle.wordpress.com

For lemm.ee:
lemm.ee/…/pfefferle.wordpress.com@pfefferle.wordp…

TheOneWithTheHair,
@TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world avatar

OK, thanks! I must have mangled it when I pasted it.

ram,

Huh it works on lemm.ee, lemmy.ca, and even the canonical instance .ml. But not on bookwormstory.social.
I wonder why that would be? But also, I’m not really worried. Maybe 0.19.0 will fix whatever’s broken.

GenderNeutralBro,

How did you get lemm.ee to connect to it? I cannot open it on my instance; it just gives me “The server returned this error: couldnt_find_community.” When I try to run a search it just brings up these comments. I think the URL format in the community name is breaking Lemmy, but clearly it worked on your instance so I’m confused.

This URL loads but gives me that error: …sdf.org/…/pfefferle.wordpress.com@pfefferle.word…

This link doesn’t work correctly: !pfefferle.wordpress.com@pfefferle.wordpress.com

Crul,

I didn’t do anything special, just typed the correctly fomatted link (as yours).

It doesn’t work on bookwormstory.social either (pointed out here). Being it a new feature, bugs are expected.

4am,

Are comments from other platforms supposed to appear beneath blog posts like that? I suppose it depends on how WordPress has implemented their federation. If it is supposed to work, it might also depend on how often WordPress pulls in information from other sources; I wonder what their default federation settings are? Does a blog automatically federate everywhere? Or would they have a more allow-list model to prevent comment sections becoming a moderation nightmare for blog authors?

I suppose I should look this up 😇

EDIT: “and, in turn, receive replies from those platforms that are transformed into blog comments.”

So it might be a matter of how often that blog’s “cron” tasks run (background processing that runs on a timer), and perhaps if the blog author allows comments (from the fediverse and otherwise) and if they have to manually approve them before they display.

morrowind,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

I see it too, tried subscribing. I see one post, and no comment from you

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