Nintendo Switch emulator, Yuzu, developers settling lawsuit from Nintendo with $2.4M payout, handing over its domains, and agreeing "Yuzu [is] primarily designed to circumvent [DRM]".

This also includes ceasing development and destroying their copies of the code.

The GitHub repo page for Yuzu now returns a 404, as well. In addition, the repo for the Citra 3DS emulator was also taken down.

As of at least 23:30 UTC, Yuzu’s website and Citra’s website have been replaced with a statement about their discontinuation.

Other sources found by @Daughter3546:

There is also an active Reddit thread about this: www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1b6gtb5/

Zealousideal_Fox900,

There is a very special place in hell for all nintendo lawyers.

Scrof,

F you Nintendo.

A_Random_Idiot,

I wonder how much the “Yuzu is primarily for piracy” thing will hurt yuzu successors off the open sourced code.

Zink,
@Zink@pawb.social avatar

The forks were made to use homebrew apps.

Or something else, there’s quite a lot of ways to make this work without the whole games thing

ed_cock, (edited )

Man… in a better world Nintendo wouldn’t have a case because liberating encryption keys is the basis for interoperability, which is good for, you know, competition. Competition is good. Or so I’ve heard.

AutistoMephisto,
@AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world avatar

That’s how it was. Then the “infinite growth” mind virus infected all of the private sector. I think it’s because with the internet and global markets, the competition between firms isn’t about fighting for customers - the customer base is essentially infinite, or at least much bigger than the firms need, so the goal isn’t to serve your customers better so they come to you instead of your competitors. What’s scarce is investment capital - more and more of the equity markets are consolidated into fewer and fewer players, and since the modern share market is much more speculative (i.e. investors buy not on the expected value of the share of the profits they get as dividends, but on the ability to flip their shares to someone else at a higher price later, who in turn is only buying because they anticipate flipping the shares, there’s no regard to the fundamentals of the business), the goal is to compete with other firms by showing the capital investors that you can offer the best return on investment.

Under this mindset, you don’t have customers to serve, you have assets to monetise, you’ve gotta show the moneymen that you’re getting faster and faster growth with lots of new revenue streams - you don’t actually need for these to pan out, because noone cares about whether you’re actually making profits so much as whether you look like you’re growing so you can be flipped to another speculator. And in that mindset, customers are an obstacle - they’re preventing you from monetising your assets by standing between you and their money.

0Xero0, (edited )
@0Xero0@lemmy.world avatar

Here is the latest stable build of Yuzu that I’ve got from 24 hours ago for anyone who wasn’t able to download it in time.

CrayonRosary,

Anyone downloading executable code from a random person on the internet needs to take a course in digital safety.

I assume you’re not being malicious, OXero0, but none of us can possibly know that.

For anyone thinking of downloading it, wait until the popular, vetted forks show up. If you don’t already have a working version, you don’t need it today.

A_Random_Idiot,

But she said shes clean, and the scabs are from a genital tattoo!

So surely its okay for me to fuck the 3 dollar hooker?

Adanisi,
@Adanisi@lemmy.zip avatar

Best to get a copy or two of the source code

0Xero0, (edited )
@0Xero0@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, everyone should be careful downloading files from a rando on the internet. But at the same time, most people just want to get the files and don’t want or know how to deal with the source code. And everything is on archive.org but not everyone knows about it, and they probably don’t want to wait for a new emulator when they know the old one works.

I’m not saying that you should trust me, you don’t know me, I don’t know you, so as you said, it’s best to be careful anyway.

Btw, I’ve read that Yuzu collected telemetry, and now that Nintendo owns the site, it’s best to set up a firewall and block Yuzu from accessing the internet so be safe.

Wilzax, (edited )

Let this be a lesson: if you try to forcibly pry open the gates of DRM hell and let software be free, you best let it be truly free and only money off it from the donations of your supporters. Don’t be like yuzu and monetize the living hell out of your emulator. Don’t stuff it with telemetry, don’t hide releases behind a patreon paywall.

That all being said, fuck Nintendo.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Bleem was a paid and they won, but this was before the anti circumvention addendum. Yuzu wasn’t sued for being an emulator, but because it used the keys file to decrypt games.

wax,

Should have let the decryption be fully external, and not just needing the keys

vox, (edited )
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

tbf there was never a paywall. ea = latest yuzu master branch with some work-in-progress-but-almost-ready-for-general-use prs merged in.
anyone could have taken the repo, merged prs from the list and built it, with no need to pay for anything. It’s free software after all

Fisch,
@Fisch@lemmy.ml avatar

There was actually someone who did that, the repo was called pineapple-src and it was fairly popular

Wilzax,

Yeah you’re right, it was brought to my attention that the lawsuit was about decrypting games, especially Tears of the Kingdom, before they were released. The monetization was just to provide earlier access to precompiled binaries

alphapuggle,

I can load a pirated copy onto a modded console, does that mean that Nintendo is liable for their software being used for piracy?

isles,

Yeah, they better pay themselves some damages… Oh wait.

Floshie,

And I was thinking of cloning the repo. Fuck

jadedwench,

I set up a script the other day to check the repo every half hour or so and download any updates. I will give myself a reminder tomorrow to post it on Dropbox or something, if you don’t find it elsewhere.

Asudox,
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

Torrenting is probably the best idea.

Infernal_pizza,
@Infernal_pizza@lemmy.world avatar

Any chance you can send it to me as well?

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

Money is a weapon in western society. You can’t win just because you’re right

Jumi,

Yup, I don’t think I’m buying any Nintendo products anytime soon

A_Random_Idiot,

I mean, why would you? Nintendo has been anti-consumer for a long time now.

This is just a drop in the bucket for them, not nearly as bad as trying to extort lets players/streamers into giving over half their income to nintendo and shit like that.

Kedly,

I think some of us (At least TWO! [=P] ) were pretty much already ready to, and this was just the straw that broke the camels back

Dasus,

Nintendo got them alone in a dark room and told them that if they don’t settle, admit and pay something they might be able to pay off in their lifetimes (Nintendo doesn’t care about the money, 2.4 million is nothing to them), Nintendo would tie them up in legal battles for years, still making them broke and probably blocking them from doing something new.

Or something.

Fucking corporate shills. Why can’t we just all have fun gaming. Piracy increases sales.

pivot_root, (edited )

There’s no way they would state that directly, or they would be labeled a vexatious litigant. They might have emphasized their desire to refuse future settlement offers if the first one wasn’t taken, if you catch my drift.

Dasus, (edited )

Personally I think there’s a direct indirectness in everything you say to a person when alone in a dark room.

Monomate,

For those looking for the latest Yuzu and Citra releases: Yuzu Win/Linux Early Access, Yuzu Android, Citra Win/Mac/Linux/Android.

DudeImMacGyver,

Fuck DRM though, all my homies hate DRM.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

And the digital millennium copyright act

markr,

I started out in the computer industry working for a company that reverse engineered and built IBM compatible terminal systems, This was more than 40 years ago, when that was its own large and profitable sector of the computer hardware market. It was absolutely legal to build ‘plug compatible’ reverse engineered third party systems. DRM is almost entirely horseshit that has helped turn the entire tech industry into silo’d enshittified monopolies.

LodeMike,

Nothing capitalists say about feudal rights mean much of anything. More or less the entire tech industry isn’t allowed to have non-competes and it’s such a big field because of it.

SkyeStarfall,

Then people will argue capitalism incentivizes innovation.

inclementimmigrant,

Can’t blame them but at the same time, yeah kind of sad they folded as easily as a Nintendo DS.

I will say Nintendo can count on me, a older game with disposable income and kids, not buying a switch 2 with they way they’ve been acting with all of their lawsuit and anti-consumer practices.

DudeImMacGyver,

Same here: When I want to buy a game for portable play, I’ll just use my Steam Deck and buy from Valve or GOG instead, maybe even emulate some Nintendo games on it out of spite.

evranch,

Same, I gave my daughter my Switch and used Yuzu to play the games I owned for it on my TV (at greatly improved resolution and framerate, of course).

Now that my PC is hooked up to my TV, my next console is just Steam and my next portable will be the Steam Deck as well.

dirtbiker509,

Logging in to cancel my switch online right now. I was using YUZU to play games I bought from them, in some cases even more than once. F Nintendo. I won’t be buying a Switch 2.

bruhduh,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

Better yet, since their hate on piracy is so big, buy HACKED switch 2 when it’ll be available and pirate the fuck out of them

Zorsith,
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Somebody would have most likely bought a switch 2 to hack it, so that’s still money in nintendos hand either way, plus free marketing/advertisement of nintendo IP. Fuck 'em.

Kedly,

Just get a Steam Deck and be able to play Computer games too!

bruhduh, (edited )
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

I honestly wish there a would be steam deck with size of psvita, the size is only problem, steam deck is better in everything but size

Kedly, (edited )

GPD sells a PSP Go shaped computer, which, if the Steam Deck didnt exist, was probably going to be the computer I would have ended up owning, but Valve’s version of Linux and its control mapping is PHENOMENAL, so I dont know how it’d compare in that sense

Edit: According to this video the GPD Win 4 works pretty amazingly with Steams OS, so it seems like a valid option

bruhduh,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah that was good, but price, and psvita had sensor controls as steam deck but gpd didn’t, yet i always wanted to have “gpd max” umpc since it’s versatile

Huschke,

As another older gamer I have bought every single switch first party game to display them on my shelves. I also have them all on my PC as roms so I can enjoy them with high fidelity and stable 60 FPS.

I will neither buy another one of their games nor their next console and I also downloaded each and every rom I could find out of spite. I hope their next console crashes and burns like the Wii U…

iegod,

You sound like a child.

DudeImMacGyver,

Old guy here: Fuck Nintendo

___,

This right here. Disney and Nintendo get no more of my hard earned $$$. These companies create iconic products and they get paid for it. All of the DRM anti-consumer over-reach is where I draw the line though.

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