HogsTooth,

Without the only app store that matters, this was dead on day 1 for me.

cammelspit,

One of the main reasons I made the switch from 10 to 11 and I used it constantly. I have several services that simply don’t work right from the web interface because of the drm BS. Being able to use the android apps worked great even if side loading an alternative store was a little bit of a pain on initial setup.

I am even more glad I recently made the switch to a 100% Linux environment at home. I have a simple waydroid install and it works much easier and is equally integrated into the desktop experience when compared to WSA. Only hassle is making sure you have a Wayland compositor since it won’t work with x11 but that’s just confirming a configuration essentially so par for the course really.

Regardless, this would be very disappointing if I hadn’t already had an alternative.

ByteMe,

I hate this. I like wsa and it was one of the main reasons I went to w11. Well… whatever, we can’t have nice things I guess

KairuByte,
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Both expected and unexpected. WSA was a major feature announcement when it was originally released, and M$ isn’t normally like Google when it comes to dropping projects.

InFerNo,

Windows Phone, Windows Mobile, Family Room, Zune, Expression. When products don’t create enough revenue they get axed.

KairuByte,
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

While absolutely true, Google has a reputation and history of killing off huge swaths of projects widely adopted by end users, even if they were theoretically profitable.

tigerjerusalem,

Talk about a “oh no, anyway” moment. I used the feature for about two days, saw no benefit from it, and completely forgot it was even there.

jayandp,

Whelp, even less reason to upgrade to Windows 11 when Windows 10 is retired. Microsoft doing its best to convince me to switch to Linux full-time.

atocci,

Dang, I’m really disappointed by this. It’s the reason I decided to go with a Surface Pro X over a Galaxy Tab when I was looking to buy a tablet.

jadedwench,

I almost panicked and thought it was WSL until I got to the Android part. Never knew it was a thing. Still sucks for developers who depended on it.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Was it ever actually supported? I was waiting for it to be ready to switch to Windows 11 since android emulators are all extremely heavy, I just remember it being on a preview version.

Joosl,

It worked well. But only with Amazon AppStore apps, so nothing useful

Fumbles,

This is what gets me. If they actually just let people install Android apps. It might have worked.

atocci,

There was also nothing stopping you from sideloading apps. I used it with Auroa Store.

baseless_discourse, (edited )

What about waydroid? is it heavy as well? I think vanilla OS Beta even have fdroid built-in to install android app.

yamanii, (edited )
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t know, I’m on Windows 10, was thinking of bluestacks and LDplayer that I use to play some gachas on PC.

baseless_discourse,

Oh that makes sense. I thought you were on Linux, and wondering why you want to switch to windows when waydroid is available.

I heard they now have near zero performance penalty and integrate really well with the desktop. If you really want android apps, you can probably try it out on a old computer or vm.

Grain9325,

In my experience, Waydroid kinda sucked. It used more resources than an Android Emulator on Windows did with less performance in games. Of course, they’re different technologies (containerized vs VM) but the experience was vastly different. It lacks so many QoL features. You can’t dynamically change resolution. Can’t bind keys by default (need to install something for it) etc Wayland requirement was also a trouble for me (It didn’t work quite well and I kept running into issues) Intel > AMD > Nvidia for Waydroid

baseless_discourse,

I think if you are using hardware that has poor supports for wayland (e.g. nvidia), then poor performance of waydroid is kind of expected.

Grain9325,

Yeah software rendering sucks a lot for Nvidia users. I’m on AMD.

9point6,

Damn, this was going to be my workaround for using authy now they’re discontinuing the desktop app inexplicably.

theredhood,

I tried to use it for a few apps but the WSA susbsystem takes up too much RAM for me.

Midnight1938,

Host a vaultwarden for free somewhere

smileyhead,

Aegis, Bitwarden (now has 2FA in free plan), KeePass…

theredhood,

Can confirm KeePassXC works. But Aegis is android only and Bitwarden TOTP code generation is still paid right now.

phreekno,
@phreekno@lemmy.world avatar

Bitwarden TOTP code generation is still paid

not if you self host

theredhood,

They allow it now? Last I checked even self hosted bitwarden needs a license for premium features. You could always use vaultwarden instead if you’re gonna self host.

phreekno,
@phreekno@lemmy.world avatar

yes it is vaultwarden that i was thinking of, not bitwarden selfhosted. my bad. i actually just spun up a new vaultwarden last night using docker compose. its got a long list of environment variables but still makes it super easy to set up in a flash

PlexSheep,

Keepassxc works great for totp on a functional level. Keep in mind that your second factor should ideally be separated from your first, for better security. Otherwise the 2nd factor does not do much if the password database is compromised.

In case people are looking for keepassxc “clients” on android, id recommend keepassdx.

Discover5164,

bitwarden now has free otp??

this information got to me ~2h too late. i just switched from authy to 2FAS

moon,

Bitwarden premium is worth the money. It’s literally $10/yr.

ahriboy,
@ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Free OTP is only on self-hosted servers.

Quexotic,

You could use BlueStacks. It’s a bit ad laiden, but it’s not bad.

Passerby6497,

BlueStacks is so fucking heavy though. I only have it so I can view a single camera from my desktop, but it’s amazing how much ram it gobbles up while running.

LiveLM,

Hard disagree. They (and most other Android emus) are sketchy as hell, I believe using them for anything authentication related would be dangerous

0x2d,

waydroid, idk if it works on windows, i’ve only used it linux

cyberpunk007,

Did Microsoft just pull a Google on a Google product? Mind blowing.

Atemu,
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

Must’ve gotten infected when eating the Android sweets.

yoz,

That was quick

ObviouslyNotBanana,
@ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

I knew WSL was a thing but had absolutely no idea about WSA.

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

WSA was.

Reddfugee42,

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dbilitated,
@dbilitated@aussie.zone avatar

lol I didn’t realise it had been released

Backfire,

It really hadn’t rolled out across the globe yet, so no, it wasn’t even really released before getting pulled.

mlg,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

If they hadn’t locked into amazon appstore, I feel like they could have made it work.

Either cough up money for Playstore or better yet just make windows store compatible with android and easier to use.

Pantherina,

I mean, Waydroid works fine with Aurorastore and even Playstore. Sure that may break, but all that capitalist “we buy licenses” BS of course costs money

Reddfugee42, (edited )

The Amazon app store is the most mature app store outside of Google Play. It’s not just as simple as converting the Windows store to Android because of course they would need to develop an Android version of every app in the windows store.

mlg,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

I meant just allowing people to publish APKs to the windows store, not converting every app.

Although WSA let you sideload apps anyway so I’m thinking maybe Microsoft just didn’t see any big profit potential which is why they’re shutting down.

zurohki,

TIL there’s an Amazon app store.

Quexotic,

Lol. Yeah, they’ve got quite the wall around their garden. It’s hell getting the play store running on their hardware.

Cerothen,

Have you ever tried using aurora instead of the play store for devices that don’t natively have it?

auroraoss.com

Dehydrated,

It works very well, I use it all the time on GrapheneOS

Quexotic,

Nope. Never had enough trust. I’d sooner use a website and use virustotal to scan. At least you know what you are getting that way.

I may experiment with it on an expendable device, so thank you all the same.

Quexotic,

I’ve since tried it on a Bliss FOSS image. Still not able to get apps working.

maccentric,

I recently discovered Aurora, which allowed me to easily install Firefox on my Fire HD. Lots of other stuff too (better launcher, for instance) but I found it because the web just sucks without Ublock

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