For anyone wondering if Threads and Facebook at large will be a fine neighbor in the space and compatible with other apps/services in the fediverse: they’re already automatically hiding comments that mention Pixelfed mastodon.social/@dansup/112126250737482807
I’m actually quite glad about this. Currently Pixelfed is absolutely beautiful, without me having to do any blocking at all. I don’t want spammy low-key commercial posts to start showing up on it, turning me cynical and sour trying to work out who is legit on it. The whole culture of mainstream social media is based on people commodifying themselves, whereas Pixelfed is about artistic expression for its own sake. That’s my own take on it anyway. For me, Pixelfed is the best thing on the internet at the moment and I feel protective of it!
Im surprised no one has copy pasted libs of tiktok posts with info of mark zuckerberg, elon, etc to see if that breaks TOS and yell free speech and right wing censorship if the accounts are taken down
I know everyone loves having biases confirmed but we’re also not stupid, we know how the internet and evidence works. A random comment getting spam canned means almost nothing.
If this is true it’ll be incredibly easy to make a really good case for it which would be a potential news story - however I suspect that it’s just a glitch
Thank you! I thought it was but then I have been seeing toots from instances that I’m not supposed to be able to see (or so I thought) so I wasn’t so sure I understood the whole thing anymore. Also, I don’t understand the difference between defederated and fedipact 😬
Fedipact is people who’ve signed some thing pledging to never federate with threads, whereas all the other ones have just defederated them without signing the pact. In reality there’s not really any difference at all.
Thanks a lot for taking the time to reply! I apologize for having a “knot in my brain” about this. I have now had the time to read most of this whole exchange and understand better. Also I realized that what was confusing me was not on a Lemmy server. I was under the impression that the fedipact meant that my other server (Neuro different.me) will not federate with thread but will also defederate from servers who federate with Thread. But that doesn’t seem to be the case so what I don’t understand now is: if my server defederated Thread but remains federated with a server that didn’t defederate Thread… My data could still land on a Thread server?
If my server defederated Thread but remains federated with a server that didn’t defederate Thread… My data could still land on a Thread server?
if your instance defeds threads then it blocks any information being sent to threads at all so they wont receive anything that you post, not even your upvotes on posts will federate with threads.
The only case where this gets kind of weird is if you’re on an instance that federates via an allow list of approved instances instead of using the normal method of federating with everyone by default then blocking selected bad instances (the only large instance that uses this method for federation though is hexbear as far as im aware so its not really that important).
We can’t federate with something that’s completely against our ideia of “social”. I mean, meta wants a monopoly of the public space. Meta is a shopping center, the Federation ( Mastodon, Lemmy, and stuff) should be like a public square.
“We can’t federate” is not really an option… Sure, every instance can add threads to the blocked list. But to keep big corporations out of ‘our public square’ ActivityPub would have to be twisted into a grotesque version of itself.
Small businesses can individually refuse to do business with the big shopping mall -> add threads to the block list (‘defederate’ them)
The big shopping mall is not allowed to put their building at the public square -> threads is not allowed to use ActivityPub
The first statement is totally ok and a lot of instances do this. However, similar like shopping malls it can pose a challenge for small businesses to stay competitive, while categorically refusing business with the big actor. The second statement would require the towns construction committee to not give the shopping mall a license to build. However, this construction committee is a centralised power and not in the design of ActivityPub.
I do not like threads and see them as a potential threat to what we have here. Exactly because it could become harder to stay competitive while refusing them. But i don’t see much that we can actively do.
Thanks, that added some good context to your position. I think it’s a legitimate worry but I think we have a chance, unlike the shopping mall scenario.
It’s like combat, companies like this see it as necessary to take every protective step possible, they have an inferior product so manipulation is the only way to maintain their monopoly
Choosing a defederated instance might be a good idea…I just signed up here but I’ll consider it.
I could also just block the threads.net domain, no? Or would my data still get shipped off to Meta? I’m a little fuzzy on how detailed user account level federation works still.
The issue is less Facebook getting your data and more Facebook getting invited to the party when they have ruined every other party they were invited to.
We can’t really stop Facebook from peering into the window to the party, but we can slam the door in Facebook’s face when they knock and try to come in, as we should.
I could also just block the threads.net domain, no?
Nope domain blocking in Lemmy only does anything for communities. Plus blocking on Lemmy isn’t even really blocking, it’s a more extreme mute function that is deceptively called “block”.
So something changed between then and now. Wish the picture had absolute timestamps instead of the relative ones. I’m on mobile so I’m not about to try to dive into EXIF to find out when that was happening.
Does it matter though if Threads actually did this now? Something like this WILL happen in the future, it is the only kind of behavior large corporations are capable of when they interact with a commons they have the incentive to enclose.
Oh damn! If the suckerburg empire is already censoring Pixelfed, wait until they find out about Loops.
Fakebook is not a social media site, it's a place to stalk and scam people, just like the other suckerburg tracking apps.
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