adamjcook,

Inefficient, environmentally-harmful and unsafe.

and Clark County, reaching new lows of crummy urban planning.

https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/las-vegas-loop-tunnels-reach-encore-westgate/

jasonsando,
@jasonsando@hachyderm.io avatar

@adamjcook I was fortunate to be at the Honolulu Skyline rail project debut last week and imagine my shock as a Las Vegas local to see a rail project that goes from where people live and work to the airport (track installed but that segment won't open for a few years). It's insane that we in Vegas don't have a rail system running from the airport up the strip, they are right next to each other. Maybe this tunnel silliness will start something, is my hope.

brennansv,
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@adamjcook Why? I want tunnel projects to succeed. It normally takes decades to complete. I want to many more tunnels for direct routes here. What we need is a high capacity vehicle similar to an airport tram. I also want tunnels dedicated to bikes.

adamjcook,

@brennansv My comment, to be clear, is orthogonal to tunnels.

Tunnels are great.

What is opposite of great is that proven, efficient and safe forms of must now compete with this "Vegas Loop" absurdity - a "transportation system" that trades all three items in my comment for a low upfront cost.

Some of these "Vegas Loop" stops (like the one mentioned in the article) had a monorail station already there!

brennansv,
@brennansv@sfba.social avatar

@adamjcook I do not know the details well enough to do a breakdown in that case. Here in SF the Central Subway Project was approved by voters in 2003 and was just finished this past year. It is the first new subway in 40 years. We need to have faster progress than that.

I would rather we have smaller tunnels which support direct routes to more places in a city. If they were mostly dedicated to bikes it would get a good amount of people off the surface streets and would be far safer than mixing with traffic. I'd love to live near a tunnel system which can get me to a few areas in the city without any hills.

https://www.sfmta.com/projects/central-subway-project

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