Satanic display at Iowa Capitol vandalized ‘beyond repair’; arrest made

DES MOINES, Iowa (KCRG) - On Thursday, the Satanic Temple of Iowa announced that their display at the Iowa Capitol had been significantly damaged.

The controversial display, which Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds called “objectionable,” featured a ram’s head covered with mirrors on a mannequin before being damaged.

Organizers say it’s a symbol of their right to religious freedom.

The Satanic Temple of Iowa posted the following message on their Facebook page:

“This morning, we were informed by authorities that the Baphomet statue in our holiday display was destroyed beyond repair. We are proud to continue our holiday display for the next few days that we have been allotted.

We ask that for safety, visitors travel together and use the 7 Tenets as a reminder for empathy, in the knowledge that justice is being pursued the correct way, through legal means.

KCCI has reported that 35-year-old Michael Cassidy of Lauderdale, Mississippi, was charged with Criminal Mischief in the 4th Degree. He has since been released.

Solve et Coagula! Happy Holidays! Hail Satan!”

jasondj,

“This morning, we were informed by authorities that the Baphomet statue in our holiday display was destroyed beyond repair. We are proud to continue our holiday display for the next few days that we have been allotted.

Interesting choice and use of the words “informed” and “proud”. Really makes it sound like whoever said this sees it as a net-positive.

Numuruzero,

Part of their mission is to expose hypocrisy, and vandalism does work to that end. Particularly if the vandal in question is Christian.

voidMainVoid,

Really makes it sound like whoever said this sees it as a net-positive.

Not necessarily, but there’s no reason to let the bastards get you down.

GuyDudeman,
@GuyDudeman@lemmy.world avatar

Actually, the Satanic Temple is basically a trolling organization. They LOVE that they triggered these insecure weaklings.

Facebones,

Funny that you take more issue with somebody’s tone than the vandalism.

jasondj,

The vandalism is expected. TST probably put it there hoping for vandalism because that exposes the hypocrisy.

Facebones,

And yet here you are attacking their tone instead of the people defacing their shit.

Satanism isn’t just about TrOlLiNg. The fact that you’re more worried about tone than the vandalism shows how other religions are allowed to be the butt of the joke, or in this case the violence. Just like how the guy got a slap on the wrist charge instead of the hate crime you’d 1000% get for tearing up a Jesus statue.

“The vandalism is expected.”

Welcome to the point - IT FUCKING SHOULDN’T BE.

jasondj, (edited )

I think you miss the actual point.

The actual point is to expose religious hypocrisy. Not only does forcing the states hand to put the statue there the first place achieve that goal, but in a rare and very much anticipated double-dip maneuver, they also get to expose the hypocrisy in its vandalism.

TST does this through a lot of expert-level trolling. You may not see it as such but it really is.

That’s not a bad thing. Honestly their approach is fucking amazing and it works. Trolling isn’t itself a bad thing. It’s a tool that can be used. It can be used poorly or well. And for good or bad. TST is using it well, for good. Good for them.

ETA, maybe “expected” isn’t the best word. But it’s certainly an opportunity that they can and will take advantage of. I don’t think TST sees the vandalism as an expressly negative thing, but rather a real thick silver lining. If anything, it actually helps their message.

voidMainVoid,

Why do you see this as trolling, though? I saw the display, and there was nothing insulting or disrespectful about it.

Now, if it had been a defaced crucifix or something like that, I could agree. But I don’t see how Baphomet itself is offensive to Christianity. It isn’t even a Christian icon. It comes from occultism.

GardeningSadhu,

shocked they actually arrested him. will be even more shocked if he gets anything close to the punishment he earned

Pacmanlives,

A 4th degree misdemeanor is nothing! I doubt if someone messed up a Jesus Nativity set they would get that

brax,

Idk, a precedent has been set now. Lawyers could just refer back to this case, no?

misophist,

What is the precedent? “Unlike crimes against any other religion, hate crimes against satanism is not a hate crime”?

Facebones,

I keep seeing this precedent argument and this is exactly what I think every time.

If anything I see someone TRYING to use this case as a precedent to swerve hate crime charges and it gets used to declare Satanism not a recognized religion.

brax,

Seems like America has basically said:

“hate crimes against religious iconography isn’t a hate crime”

It’s a huge can of worms that they opened, and basically shit all over everything people fought against in WWII.

Pretty sure it also just wiped out a few US fundamental freedoms too.

So, either this goes up the chain to punish the guy appropriate, or the USA is in for some real heated bullshit in the near future.

misophist,

Burning down a church with nobody in it is a hate crime. Where is the line? Is it destruction of real property? Is it a monetary threshold? I don’t know the answer, but it is definitely a huge can of worms.

GardeningSadhu,

good for you

wetnoodle,
@wetnoodle@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Republicans sure do love doing hate crimes

Goferking0,

Why do you think they hate those hate crime laws so much

Facebones,

"It’s not pedophilia if we strip the minimum marriage age laws"

  • Republicans in multiple states
Goferking0,

the lord intended for us to go after them young

banneryear1868,

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  • Jeremyward,

    I dunno seems pretty useful to me.

    warbond,

    wtf is this “both sides” shit? How are satanists ridiculous?

    banneryear1868,

    BoTh SiDeS lol

    The ST don’t actually believe in Satan btw, real Satanists do. There’s no evidence Satan exists and it’s ridiculous to actually believe in Satan. Christians believe Satan is real too.

    CileTheSane,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

    just useful for challenging Christianity politically

    That’s exactly what they’re going for, yes.

    intensely_human,

    Why was there a religious display at the Iowa capitol?

    Maggoty,

    Because it’s the compromise that means the Christians can have their display.

    intensely_human,

    Two wrongs

    vithigar,

    Yes. That’s the point.

    The Baphomet display is essentially a protest of those displays being allowed. Christians want their display at the capital, so they allow religious displays. But now a Satanic display is put up next to theirs, which is also allowed by the exact same rules.

    So they either have to put up with it, just like non-Christians have to put up with theirs, disallow all of them, or just go mask-off Christian state and start getting specific about which religions are acceptable in their laws.

    Bernie_Sandals,
    @Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s also important to note the group that put the Baphomet there isn’t a theological one, it’s the Athiest Satanists, so to them this is purely about trolling Churches that try to influence the state.

    A_Random_Idiot,

    Yeah, the Satanic Temple is a fucking amazing group of people and if there is anything approaching a good religion, its theirs, since they use religion to fight for the people and give, while the evangelicals only use theirs to take.

    RedAggroBest,

    They’re not really a religion, more “just” a protest movement.

    brax,

    No, they’re really a religion. They are recognized as such by the US government and are tax exempt just like the church.

    whostosay,

    They do pay their taxes though, also out of protest.

    voidMainVoid,

    No, they don’t. You’re thinking of the Church of Satan.

    whostosay,

    Well hot damn, I’ve found myself in the pool of people that get these two mixed up.

    Schadrach,

    and are tax exempt just like the church.

    Unlike the Church of Satan, which is not tax exempt because they explicitly believe churches should be taxed.

    brax,

    Also because they aren’t recognized as a religious organization in the USA and this can’t apply for tax exemption.

    The other part of TST being tax exempt falls in line with them basically doing everything the church does to point out hypocrisy. If TST made the billions that the church does, I’m sure they’d also be doing far more campaigns

    Schadrach,

    Also because they aren’t recognized as a religious organization in the USA and this can’t apply for tax exemption.

    They meet all the requirements to be a religious organization in the USA (it’s easy enough that John Oliver created one ex nohilo just to prove a point on his show), they explicitly do not seek tax exempt status at all because they expressly believe religious organizations should be taxed. From The Devil’s Notebook, an essay titled Pentagonal Revisionism:

    "2) Strict taxation of all churches – If churches were taxed for all their income and property, they’d crumble overnight of their own obsolescence, and the National Debt would be wiped out as quickly. The productive, the creative, the resourceful should be subsidized. So long as the useless and incompetent are getting paid, they should be heavily taxed. "

    brax,

    Weird take, but interesting. You’d think they’d want to keep as much of that $300 membership fee as they can, I’m not sure how much they make off those - especially these days.

    In any case, a big part of what TST is doing is bringing the he hypocrisy of the Christian hegemony to light. By taking tax exemption, they can continue to not just do this, but use their money for good instead of personal jets and ridiculous buildings.

    A_Random_Idiot,

    Man, thats a hard enough WOOSH that it could provide 3 days of clean power to Denmark.

    voidMainVoid,

    It’s about equal representation. We are as much of a religion as they are.

    jandar_fett,

    When you put it like that, it is absolutely brilliant.

    voidMainVoid,

    It’s equality. If the people in charge say, “We’re playing chess”, you can’t just sit in the corner and sulk and say “I want to play checkers!” You’ll be left out of the chess game then.

    So, you go play chess, and you see that one side has all of their pieces, but you only have pawns. You can point that out and show how the system is being rigged against you. It’s obvious to outsiders how it’s unfair and needs to change.

    Schadrach,

    The whole point. To avoid violating 1A, they can’t discriminate regarding religion, so if they permit religious displays they have to permit them for any religion that wants one, and grant them equal treatment.

    So if some Jews and a Wiccan group wanted to join in and have a Chanukah display and a Yule display those would have to be permitted as well. Given choice I’d rather instead of TST showing up ot piss off Christians that every minority religious group in the state demand a display because that would make it easier to kill the whole program when instead of two displays it becomes an unreasonable number to deal with.

    nepenthes,
    @nepenthes@lemmy.world avatar

    There is a post from yesterday (pre-destruction) about the hullabaloo, I’ll go look for it and edit. BRB

    Edit: This might take a while, but I have the link to the article the post had

    uriel238,
    @uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Kurtz: Are my methods unsound?
    Willard: I don’t see any method at all, sir.
    Kurtz: I expected someone like you. What did you expect? Are you an assassin?
    Willard: I’m a soldier.
    Kurtz: You’re neither. You’re an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill.

    Apocalypse Now, 1979

    dangblingus,

    Whats the analogy here? Kurtz is insane.

    IHadTwoCows,

    Weak, pathetic, pussy-assed ‘god’ gets extremely butthurt and sends a pathetic paranoid delusional simp loser to break things.

    This incident is proof that the judeo-christian god is a bedwetting loser.

    voracitude,

    Hey now, the Judeo-Christian god can’t be a pussy-ass or get butthurt. Both of those require existence 🥁 Bang-on about the delusional losers breaking shit though lol.

    kmaismith,

    If we call the part of our brain that helps us call label things right and wrong “god” we can see anyone speaking or acting on behalf of “god” as the reality of being on behalf of themselves or whoever put that god into their head

    TK420,

    Shhhhh, adults are talking.

    jandar_fett,

    Why so dimissive?

    TK420,

    god is some man made shit that has no place in our society. People who believe are not very smart, similar to flat earth people.

    I would say I’m sorry, but I’m not, the truth hurts.

    pinkdrunkenelephants,

    How can laws, justice or morality exist then?

    Bobmighty,

    They don’t. All three of those change, sometimes drastically, depending on the person asked and the culture they live in. If all humans vanished, those three things will vanish with us.

    pinkdrunkenelephants,

    That’s not true. Other species have altruism and social behaviors akin to those principles. Plus almost all cultures have at least some sort of ruleset, showing it’s objectively important and real. Social groups have to regulate behavior of individuals to exist and that is a fact regardless of the species.

    Stop with this r/iam14andthisisdeep edgelord bullshit. Justice, laws and morality are very, very real. Just because they’re immaterial doesn’t mean they’re not real. They influence every aspect of your life, especially when they’re not enforced.

    Other species could and would rise to become an intelligent, technological species if we disappear and would therefore end up having their own, even if it manifests in a different way.

    Bobmighty,

    It’s not edgelord bullshit. It’s just a simple truth. Other species may present with some manner of social contract, but it would likely be very different to anything we call morality or justice.
    They are ideas from human minds that we agree to live by for the most part. Same with currency and many other social constructs. Since evolution is constantly happening and imperfect, those ideas are imperfect and constantly changing, sometimes dissolving away.

    We might not even be a self, but instead, we are an ongoing process evolved to see itself as a self. The concept of free will needs a pretty big rewrite as well, if there even is such a thing.

    I’m only scratching at the surface of very deep and intricate topics of course. This isn’t exactly the best place for more in depth discussion, but for an example of where I learn this edgelord shit, the book I’m chewing through now is www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/439332.

    pinkdrunkenelephants,

    Lol oh no, it’s 100% moral relativism edgelord bullshit dumbasses use to justify doing whatever they want without consequences.

    What other species do to regulate social behavior isn’t much different from what we do, and if you bothered to research it instead of talking out of your ass, you’d know that. Google. It.

    Now in the real world where adults pay bills, people universally accept the concepts of laws and justice because they are the means by which we regulate behavior to protect ourselves and each other from harm. When people do not enforce them, we get situations like the one we’re in now, and society collapses.

    When you grow up, you’ll understand.

    RedAggroBest,

    How about a third chime? You’re both right and that’s the entire point of this philosophical debate as it occurs in scholarly spaces.

    Whether humans and our concepts are unique to us is simply unknown. We don’t know if what we think of as morality and justice are universal beyond our species. If they aren’t, then they’re just social constructs that humans have used to regulate society (something that shouldn’t be understated at incredibly important btw) rather than more base truths of life.

    jandar_fett,

    You can wholeheartedly fuck yourself off into the sun for that comment. Very ironic that you lead with “such and such is edgelord bullshit” though.

    pinkdrunkenelephants,

    I’ve no reason to fuck myself when your mom is so much more satisfying. :-*

    There. You’d rather immaturity than the truth, so enjoy it. Your mom sure as hell did when I gave her the truth last night

    Bobmighty,

    Petty insults and surface level understanding. You pretend to know, but do not.

    jandar_fett,

    I’ll add to that, that you can just consider that still to this day, cannibal human beings exist, and to them, it is moral and ethical, because it is part of their culture. That is “morally” and ethically reprehensible to us, but we exist in a different sphere of influence than them. Does this make them wrong? If so, then by who’s metric? I agree with your opening sentence, btw. Don’t have time to get into the weeds and read all of this right now though. Just got off work.

    jandar_fett,

    They’re social constructs for the most part. Try to apply your concept of laws, justice and morality with a paramecium in a drop of water.

    pinkdrunkenelephants,

    Being a social construct doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Being immaterial doesn’t mean something doesn’t exist.

    h3mlocke,

    Religious hate crime

    kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E,

    Jesus is happy now! Yaay!! /s

    reverendsteveii,

    how is this not a hate crime? it was committed because of someone’s membership in a protected class.

    meyotch,

    Simple, wrong class.

    uriel238,
    @uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Because the whole point of conservatism and Christian Nationalism is that only the right people are protected by the legal system. Everyone else is beneath the law, denied rights and protections, and subject to retribution without cause and due process.

    Conservatives fight to assure those not protected do not gain civil rights.

    The white power movement fights to further reduce rights and protections, and narrow the set of those who qualify for them.

    intensely_human,

    Can you link to a conservative saying that?

    kmaismith,

    I can’t imagine any would, that is an abstraction developed by not-conservatives trying to wrap head around conservative actions. To have a conservative in power say so overtly would fuel the people being oppressed into coordinated resistance and disgust fence sitters into voting against conservatism

    intensely_human,

    I’m a conservative, and I think people should be equal under the law.

    What are you seeing that makes it seem otherwise?

    brax,

    If you feel that people should be equal under the law, why do you align politically with the parties that don’t recognize trans rights, homosexuality, worker rights, social support, freedom of religion (not just Christianity), voting rights…

    You don’t believe people are equal under the law. At best, maybe you believe that groups of people are equal under law, but some groups are more equal than others.

    intensely_human,

    I’ve never heard a conservative person argue that a trans person should be stripped of any rights. Nor that homosexuals should, nor workers, nor people of other religions.

    Can you link to a conservative claiming this? Like … one?

    CileTheSane,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar
    CileTheSane,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

    What are you seeing that makes it seem otherwise?

    Satanic display at Iowa Capitol vandalized ‘beyond repair’

    Someone seemed to think it was appropriate to vandalize this display specifically.

    intensely_human,

    So because someone targeted a specific thing here, that’s unequal, and the inequality must therefore be a core belief of conservatives generally? Is that the line of reasoning here?

    CileTheSane,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

    apnews.com/…/satanic-temple-display-vandalized-io…

    The display is permitted by rules that govern religious installations inside the Capitol but has drawn criticism from many conservatives, including presidential candidate Ron DeSantis. A Facebook posting by The Satanic Temple on Thursday said the display, known as a Baphomet statue, “was destroyed beyond repair,” though part of it remains.

    Michael Cassidy, 35, of Lauderdale, Mississippi, was charged with fourth-degree criminal mischief, the Iowa Department of Public Safety said Friday. He was released after his arrest.

    Cassidy is a Republican who was defeated by Democrat Keith Jackson in Mississippi State House District 45 in November.

    It is possible for someone to be on the Conservative side of the political spectrum and still be a reasonable person who respects equality. It is not possible for a reasonable person who respects equality to support the Republican party.

    fushuan,

    The one that vandalised this being released as per the summary for example.

    Schadrach,

    It’s a misdemeanor vandalism charge, odds are he’s a vaguely attractive white guy with no priors so of course they let him go until his hearing, probably without bail. Only way his odds of being released on his own recognizance would have been higher is if he were a pretty, young white girl.

    I actually personally know a pretty young white girl who got caught in a drug charge out of state, released on her own recognizance pending hearing, came back home, skipped her hearing, got pulled over for a traffic violation back home, jailed for a bit for being a fugitive until the other state could fetch her, taken back to the other state and then released on her own recognizance pending a hearing again despite having explicitly proved that she was a flight risk.

    voidMainVoid,

    This case right here. He thought that it was okay to vandalize a religious display that was from “the wrong religion”, and he’s getting let off with a slap on the wrist.

    intensely_human,

    And the person letting him off is a conservative, I take it? And this is in comparison to a different arrestee who did the same to another display?

    Drivebyhaiku,

    There is a long history of right wing politicians cloaking themselves in the rhetoric of the left. You can watch it evolve over it’s history as the leftist talking points have… but the one thing that hasn’t changed since the beginning is the way they behave shows a belief in the aggregation of power. Conservatives support a hierarchy with a lot of executive power at the top and a failure state at the bottom. The left looks to broaden and scatter power horizontally…

    It’s part of why complaining that social services and welfare programs are artificially disruptive to a “natural” order and determining and expelling non-citizen underclasses and narrowing the rights to fully participate has existed since the beginning of right wing rhetoric but they never sell it outright as “some people deserve to die poor or to serve in a perpetually subordinate position”. It has always required a grift to get the masses to sign on. It’s also why they tend to pair themselves with the church going crowd. Their base has to believe at some level that inequality is not just natural but justified and that helps when you already have people you veiw as fundamentally inferior.

    foyrkopp,

    It’s the quiet part that’s (usually) not said aloud.

    Just take a look at the statistics of how i.e. criminal law is applied much more aggressively to conservative out-groups (PoC, poor, etc.) than conservative in-groups (white, wealthy, etc.). Then have a look at who is proposing politics intended to fix that imbalance an who’s talking about “taking a hard(er) stance on crime”.

    Another, rather specific example: dailymail.co.uk/…/Former-abortion-clinic-worker-r…

    Once you look our for the pattern, you’ll see it everywhere.

    Schadrach,

    criminal law is applied much more aggressively to conservative out-groups (PoC, poor, etc.) than conservative in-groups (white, wealthy, etc.).

    So in your mind is there a conservative in group and out group as regards sex? I just want a starting point before I delve any further.

    foyrkopp,

    My comment wasn’t related to sex but more generalized, but, umm - yeah?

    People having heterosexual two-person sex (preferably with a single, consistent partner) are the “in-group”.

    Everyone else is the out-group.

    If anyone ever made i.e. a study to something like police behavior experienced by a “regular” pick-up bar and a gay bar, I’d expect to see some stark differences.

    Schadrach,

    I wasn’t talking about orientation, but about sex, as in male vs female.

    jandar_fett,

    These kinds of behaviors are really hammering home that Christians are just nazis with training wheels huh?

    intensely_human,

    Perhaps they were simply trying to uphold the separation of church and state. Maybe the thing that caused the attack was “a church display at the state capitol”

    reverendsteveii,

    It was parked in a handicapped space. Perhaps they towed it.

    –Walter Sobchek

    Maggoty,

    Nope. There’s displays from multiple religions at the state capitol.

    brax,

    Because the Christian hegemony rules with an iron fist in the west. A big part of TST’s existence is about bringing that hypocrisy to light.

    Facebones,

    Interesting though it’s just a mischief charge, if I trashed their Jesus garbage you know DAMN well I’m swimming in hate crime charges.

    brax,

    If you did it now, wouldn’t lawyers be able to use thos case to get you the same punishment?

    DrSleepless,

    Not anymore friend, a precedent has been set

    Schadrach,

    In Iowa, criminal mischief covers vandalism, and 4th degree criminal mischief means damages between 300-750 dollars. Penalty is up to a year in jail and up to about $2500 in fines if convicted. Since it says he was charged, he wasn’t just let off free, he was released pending hearing aka they aren’t holding him in jail until then.

    assassin_aragorn,

    These evangelicals are doing a wonderful job of showing the Satanic Temple to be reasonable adults. Every time a loony loses their mind over this, more people compare the two and realize who the baddies actually are.

    arin,

    You overestimate people, don’t forget Trump had enough voters to win in 2016 🤮

    So_zetta_slowpoke,

    Not really, but the system was rigged to make him win. If popular votes decided elections, there would never be a republican president

    Wogi,

    They won in 2004, because John Kerry really was that boring.

    Prior to that the last election they won by majority was 1988. Though to be fair Clinton only got 43% of the vote in 1992.

    Maggoty,

    You’re forgetting to mention that Daddy Bush got only 37% and Ross Perot got 18. Clinton won the popular vote. Bush Jr did not in 2000 and he made it to the popular vote by the skin of his teeth in 2004.

    voidMainVoid,

    John Kerry really was that boring.

    Kerry didn’t campaign to end the war in Iraq. He campaigned as being more competent than Bush. He tried to convince voters that he could handle the war better. The left didn’t want the war handled better, we wanted it to end. That’s why there was no excitement around Kerry. He was just more of the same with a slightly different package.

    Schadrach,

    If popular votes decided elections then yes, how large of a margin Dems win CA by would be the deciding factor instead of a footnote.

    jandar_fett,

    It reminds me of the whole “keeping a level head while someone loses their shit on you, to demonstrably prove they’re the asshole”, but writ large.

    4grams,

    After hearing about this thing, I’ve decided I’m making myself a Christmas Baphomet decoration for my house.

    I_Fart_Glitter,

    This lil guy is the angel on my Yule tree. He’s too heavy for my live tree’s bendy little branches so he’s hanging from the ceiling on fishing line, right above the tree, like he’s flying.

    thesatanictemple.com/…/baphomet-holiday-ornament?…

    Artyom,

    TST has you covered

    HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
    @HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m this close to slapping a ram skull on a twenty foot skeleton and glittering it up, then coating it with epoxy so the craft herpes stays contained. Maybe attaching it all to a forty foot ham radio tower just for funsies.

    uriel238,
    @uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Some of us just can’t Christmas this year.

    Solstice celebrations, however…

    Bruncvik,
    @Bruncvik@lemmy.world avatar

    KCCI has reported that 35-year-old Michael Cassidy of Lauderdale, Mississippi, was charged with Criminal Mischief in the 4th Degree. He has since been released.

    What a special snowflake, that one. Bless his heart.

    kautau,

    He’s from Mississippi? Did he drive 12 hours just to go break the display?

    Spendrill,

    The meth was probably driving.

    skeezix,

    His aunt-sister drove him.

    aniki,

    That’s aunt-sister-wife to you!

    Asafum,

    That’s what being brainwashed by fucking propaganda will do to a person…

    Reich wing media is a cancer on society.

    MotoAsh,

    Conservatism in general. The entire concept of protecting the past from an improved future is asinine from the start.

    tegs_terry,

    But inexorably human.

    occhionaut,

    Maybe it was originally

    Now it is simply fascism

    cunning_bolt,

    They would argue it’s not an improvement. That’s the difference between us and them

    RageAgainstTheRich,

    Yessss ive been calling it "reich wing’ for awhile now and i finally start seeing it more often ✊

    Schadrach,

    I mean, either that or he was travelling for any number of other reasons that people do. Visiting family is popular this time of year.

    More importantly it ups the chances he doesn’t show for his hearing and either never interacts with cops again, or gets arrested for skipping his hearing next time he interacts with police for any reason, such as a routine traffic stop and jailed until Iowa gets back about whether or not they want him.

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