pinkdrunkenelephants

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pinkdrunkenelephants,

Shit like this is why Lemmy is garbage and why you all need to take better care in vetting who gets to participate in your websites. It should not have been possible for Reddit powermods to infiltrate and take over Lemmy in the first place.

I am sorry you are bearing the brunt of abuse on this platform too. Lemmy clearly doesn’t hold up to its promise.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Nah, I do, and Lemmy’s promise was to serve as a meaningful alternative to Reddit where powermodding like what you experienced wouldn’t happen, and it failed miserably. You’re also not the only person to see how terrible Lemmy has turned out to be or who has suffered because of it. It’s not just your former instance crap like this has happened on, you see.

I hope TenForward turns out to be a better place and that you have a better experience.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

I’m not knocking on what Stamets is doing. In fact, it’s clearly the best thing he could have done.

That doesn’t change the fact that the way Lemmy is as a community and as a platform is one of the main reasons why shit like this keeps happening.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Not always. Say Ten Forward has a problem with .world in the future, for example. If Ten Forward defederates, they would cut out a large part of their userbase because most Lemmy users are .world users, and won’t move for any reason. And, if Ten Forward stays federated with .world, that means their feed will be inundated with .world crap all the time instead of what they want: Star Trek stuff. People can’t and won’t just switch to a local feed; that’s not the way people work and Lemmy doesn’t work with the way people use the site, breaking it.

Meaning one instance will always dominate the others, and that’s wrong.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

I thought you made your own instance.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Well, I suppose that’s just as well. Lemmy’s way too buggy and ill-conceived to really be worthwhile for hosting anyway.

I wish you the best of luck regardless. And be careful: there are some really, really terrible people on .world – I really wouldn’t stay long if I were you.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

My guy, you’re not paying attention. I’m wishing you the best of luck in your endeavors, and your response is, as is typical of Lemmy, to find a reason to start a fight over it. Who even does that?

I’m not gonna give you the fight that you want.

Good luck in the future.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

They do but have fun keeping your head in the sand.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Then he isn’t going to be filing a frivolous lawsuit if he chooses to sue over this. It’s as simple as that.

How does employing a rapist not constitute an unsafe work environment for female employees?

So I just discovered that I have been working next to the waste of oxygen that raped my best friend several years ago. I work in a manufacturing environment and I know that you can’t fire someone just for being a sex offender unless it directly interferes with work duties (in the US). But despite it being a primarily male...

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Wow, holy shit 🤣 Okay, let’s break this down:

This is an understandable sentiment, but telling everyone about the charges for which this person has served their sentence in order to rally the rest of the workplace to look for ways to get them sacked is super-likely to see you face consequences for bullying.

Uniting with other people who feel the same way isn’t bullying, it’s a sign the complaint is legitimate. If a group of people complaining about another coworker is bullying, then nothing could be done about anyone. And they couldn’t unionize either.

Bottom line is, employees coming together over a common problem, even one employee rallying others, is done for many legitimate reasons, situations like this included. Even if you don’t agree with anything standing in the way of a known rapist working around women.

If you don’t want to work with this person, consider explaining the circumstances to HR (noting that your friend was a victim), and say it’ll be too traumatic to work alongside them. This seems like a reasonable request to me, which should be accommodated - particularly if HR are already aware of the conviction.

Which will force the victim, or potential victim, to cede territory to the rapist, enabling the rapist to continue harming others. 🤔 Legally, it may or may not benefit OP depending on how they respond, but it’s really not asking enough. They need to ask for the rapist to be moved. For which they’ll need the backing of other people.

If you want vengeance, figure out a way that isn’t going to put your livelihood in jeopardy.

No one even mentioned vengeance. Strawman elsewhere.

Don’t squeeze more negative consequences out of an already shitty situation.

Hahaha you just come right the fuck out and say it.

No negative consequences for rape allowed, rapists should be able to rape and live their lives unabated.

And if we say otherwise, well, negative consequences might come upon us.

Finally, you need to consider the society you’re advocating for -

Ironically I agree with you. This is a horrifying authoritarian slave racket masquerading as a representative democracy, which is run by rapists. And we unironically do have to consider their feelings, because they are the cops, judges and employers who tell others what to do and can do anything they want to you with no consequences. If we let offenders experience consequences on others for doing terrible things, that means they might have to face the music, and we all know they shouldn’t have to handle that.

No man should have to experience consequences for rape. It’d be too much of a threat to the society that built itself on rape.

if we’re abandoning the rule of law to keep people out of work and unable to support themselves after serving their time, we’re relegating them to be either wards of the state or homeless. We’ve already seen the issues caused by felons being barred from voting and its interplay with racial and political dynamics - how do you think manufacturing a desperate criminal underclass will work out for society?

  1. A company is not an agent of the law and what it does has no bearing on the rule of law
  2. Banning rapists from working around women in no wa would break the rule of law if it was an actual law. We already have sex offender registries and yet somehow the world will keep on turning
  3. Rapists can go take jobs that doesn’t require them to be around other people.
  4. Blackmailing and threatening us with the implied threat of harm from disenfranchised rapists is the exact same vengeance you accuse your opponents of having. You literally became exactly what you claim to hate. You. The one wielding it like an emotional cudgel when no one brought it up. But it is certainly like you to project your faults onto others. It’s what rape apologists do, after all.
pinkdrunkenelephants,

I would like you to stop being a rape apologist and actually think about someone other than yourself.

Helpful hint: Responding to this requires one line not 20 paragraphs.

You wouldn’t know it for the walls of text you and your ilk have been dropping on people in the thread non-stop all day, but sure, go ahead and completely ignore everything you were told so you can avoid facing how monstrous your stance is.

Hopefully you won’t ever be in a situation like OP. But then again, if you were, you’d destroy your relationships with your coworkers defending the rapist, so 🤷

pinkdrunkenelephants,

It doesn’t matter because the only reason I even replied was because I didn’t realize you were purposefully derailing the thread to push an agenda, and using OP and his serious, personal situation to do it.

You and your goons have said, all over the thread, the most vile, disgusting, anti-woman shit, because the truth is you condone rape and don’t want to see other males suffer for it. It didn’t occur to you that you could suffer such a thing and have no recourse. You clearly dismiss the extreme moral crime of expecting a victim’s friend and potential victims to suffer under circumstances like that – of course, everyone else in that place can just go find another job, right? Rapists have the right to work wherever they want but not good, normal people. The world revolves around you and your ilk, after all.

You’re quite simply a rape apologist. There’s no way around it. And so are the mods of this sub apparently.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Are you listening at all or are you just looking for a cheap gotcha moment?

Instead of advocating for a third party that can possibly offer us something better, all they have to offer is more of the same or a concentration camp, and neither choice is acceptable.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Then all of you find a third party and vote for them instead of Biden. Force the change you want to see in thr world. Until then, get out of my face.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Then the left would not have been able to organize at all, yet here we are.

People are moving away from Biden and standing by him is going to cost you the future of this country.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

That’s what you all tell me to do on Lemmy here, now, when you blatantly refuse to enforce your own rules or reign in your own shitty, authoritarian leadership. You even said to my face that you’ll do whatever the hell you want and that’s just how the internet works. You ALREADY expect people to just live that way so what makes you think any of your holier than thou grandstanding means anything?

You’re probably just butthurt it isn’t you running for President.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Oh hey, I think we were talking about Lemmy users organizing anything meaningful or just politically when they’ve clearly demonstrated their inability and refusal to do so on their own website.

Now read what I said again. Slowly this time.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Criticizing my response instead of directing it is exactly the kind of shit behavior I’m talking about. Thanks for proving me right about you, like you always do.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

You’re here doing nothing but criticizing the fact that I am arguing with you instead of thinking about what I said and realizing you simply misunderstood, so yes. You are a perfect example of that lowest common denominator.

You want my opinion to change? Delete your responses to me, apologize to me for wasting my time, and move on.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Then don’t waste my time arguing with me trying to convince me to change my opinion of you, because until you change, and Lemmy itself changes, you’re not going to get your way. It’s as simple as that.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

You’re not getting your way, that’s why you keep talking. Every response you give has been nothing except the ignorant, petty, immature ramblings I’ve come to expect out of Lemmy. Saying and doing anything to try to win a confrontation instead of sitting down and thinking about what you and your opponent is saying, and that’s why I say this is why Lemmy is a perfect sample of America and why therefore America needs to crash and burn.

And you do. And you likely will at the end of the year, and it’ll be sad, so sad, but you have brought every single ounce of the consequences you’ve been building up onto yourselves.

It never occurs to you that your behavior is alienating people away from Democrats and convincing people to vote third party in this next election either, but you don’t actually give a shit about the future of your country so of course you wouldn’t. 🤷

Not my problem. It’s all on you.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

They won’t do anything because they are selfish, lazy, weak, authoritarian cowards.

They can’t and won’t even enforce their own rules on Lemmy so what makes you think they’re going to do anything to save their own country?

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Yeah, they do, because it works and because it is the more just option in some instances.

I, for example, am on .cafe allowing my account to be downvoted by rape apologists who are arguing rapists have an absolute right to participate in the community regardless of what they do and the fact that their actions put the community in danger. I oppose rape on principle and think rapists ought to be jailed for life. You think shit Lemmy users are going to listen? No, and the downvotes prove it. But will it affect or change anything? Or change their minds? Absolutely not. Because humanity is inherently evil and violent, and nothing you and I say or do will change that.

You can’t make violent evil people change their minds, and you can never stop violence just as I can never stop enablers from keeping rapists in the community.

Deontological morality like the kind you and I apply to such situations therefore doesn’t work, and we both need to rethink our approach. You want to make the world a better place? Stop focusing on changing the zoo animals and just feed and cage them, where they belong.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

It’s not either, it’s a lame-ass strawman. But that kind of shitty arguing is entirely expected from dumb fucks who think any of this means anything.

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