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eestileib, in Donald Trump in real trouble after leaked Michigan call, Karl Rove warns

If there’s one thing I’ve learned over my nearly five decades, it’s that Donald Trump is never actually in trouble.

Inconvenienced perhaps. But he is blessed by the gods and will never pay a real price for anything.

Incidentally, this is also how you know the gods are evil.

JamesStallion,

Our gods are dead. Klinger warriors slew them a millenia ago. They were…more trouble than they were worth.

XeroxCool,

Is that you, Gor?

AnomalousBit,

Plot armor go brrrrrrrrrrrrrt

littlebluespark,
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Incidentally, this is also how you know the gods are evil.

A learned person such as yourself must surely recall the undeniable truth, that “the gods” without any doubt, “must be crazy”.

mozz, in These Convictions Thwart Trump’s Plan to Pardon Himself
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What I take away from this story is the pretty depressing realization that a corrupted political system in Georgia, and the tactic of delaying the two federal cases until he can maybe win the election and cancel them, means that this one might be the only chance to punish him for anything.

lemmefixdat4u, in These Convictions Thwart Trump’s Plan to Pardon Himself

I know the talking heads are saying that because DJT is a first time offender, he will likely not be incarcerated. But then the sentencing judge is Merchan, the same one who handed Trump $10,000 in fines for violating his gag order. And what he said when doing so is the interesting part:

“Because this is now the 10th time that this Court has found Defendant in criminal contempt, spanning three separate motions, it is apparent that monetary fines have not and will not, suffice to deter Defendant from violating this Court’s lawful orders.”

Given that the judge is cognizant that fines mean nothing to DJT, perhaps he will wish to sanction him by other means. That could mean imprisonment. But not before the election. Trump will surely appeal the verdict, avoiding any immediate consequences until well after November 5th. If there’s one thing Trump is good at, it’s delaying tactics. Thankfully, he will not be able to pardon himself if elected. Only the Governor of NY can do that.

bushvin,
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Trying to understand… Wouldn’t he just coerce the governor into pardoning him once president?

Mostly_Harmless_Variant,

Given his character, he would certainly try.

CptEnder,

Naw Hocul would never do that, would be political suicide in NY.

TechNerdWizard42,

Pardoning is done at their sole discretion. There is nothing illegal about bribing for a pardon. Trump could easily have a SPAC say “hey, here’s $500m, pardon him and retire.” Political suicide for sure. But not illegal, there is precedent, and if there’s life changing money (maybe a fraction of that) there’s a possibility.

Look up Mark Rich as an example.

lemmefixdat4u,

Keeping a political donation for personal use is illegal, as is bribing a public official. They might offer a highly paid position to get around it. But as you say, it’s political suicide, and if the money went to the Democrat party, as it did with Marc Rich, the party risks a big black eye as well.

lemmefixdat4u,

Assuming that the current Democrat holding the office (Kathy Hochul) is not replaced by a Republican (fat chance), I doubt any amount of coercion would result in a pardon. Coercing a public official is also a felony, and sitting Presidents can be tried for state crimes. Never happened before, but DJT has been busting that mold.

CptEnder,

Under NYS law he could still send him to jail even before sentencing as retroactive punishment for the gag order violations too. It’s not either a fine or jail, it can be both. And he can chose to do it at anytime during proceedings like at the end if it meant the conviction stage would be expedited. This cannot be appealed as it’s a bench judgement for being out of order. It would likely just be for a day or something.

lemmefixdat4u,

If he appeals, won’t he continue to be subject to the gag order until final disposition of the case?

Granite,
Granite avatar

Yeah, but I doubt that’s gonna happen

jimmydoreisalefty, in Netanyahu Under Fire After Calling Rafah Massacre a 'Tragic Mistake' [Brett Wilkins | May 27, 2024 | Common Dreams]
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“This was intentional. You don’t accidentally kill massive amounts of children and their families over and over again and get to say, ‘It was a mistake,’” U.S. Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) said in a social media post to President Joe Biden. “Genocidal maniac Netanyahu told us he wants to ethically cleanse Palestinians. When are you going to believe him, POTUS?”

Despite these staggering casualties—and Israel’s forced displacement, starvation, and deprivation of millions of Gazans—the United States continues to support its top Middle Eastern ally with billions of dollars in arms and with diplomatic and political support including United Nations Security Council vetoes and genocide denial.

“How many times are we going to hear, it was a ‘mistake’ before we take serious action against Netanyahu?” U.S. Congresswoman Delia Ramirez (D-Ill.) asked. “How does anyone justify his administration? Every single moment that we supply arms, send money, and make excuses makes us absolutely complicit in his barbaric war of death against Palestinians. Enough!”

“Biden’s backing of Netanyahu’s war is rooted in a hierarchy of human value, an empathy gap that perpetuates suffering, violence, and distrust,” he added. “Cutting off American weapons is the only way to isolate Netanyahu to prevent further killing of women and children in what has become the largest slaughter of Palestinian civilians since Israel’s founding in 1948.”

Garbanzo, in (Clinton blaming Russia to Trump being an illegitimate president to 3rd parties and now...) Clinton says women abandoned her because she wasn’t ‘perfect’ [Tara Suter | 05/25/24 | The Hill]

She got more votes than Trump. She lost because she didn’t get the votes where she needed them to win. Sure seems to me like a strategic failure rather than sexism. Call me a chauvinist if you want, but she should shut the fuck up.

jimmydoreisalefty,
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True, she seems to like to blame everyone else for her failures, except herself.

They still end up failing to the top of our gov’t’s most highest positions, while keeping the status quo and making maximum profits!

Diplomjodler3,

Both can be true. While she certainly made many mistakes, sexism was definitely a factor.

jonne,

Yep, she campaigned in Texas instead of the swing states she needed to win.

Socsa, in ‘A deranged fringe movement’: what is Maga communism, the online ideology platformed by Tucker Carlson?

What do you think Tucker’s hexbear account is?

reagansrottencorpse, in ‘A deranged fringe movement’: what is Maga communism, the online ideology platformed by Tucker Carlson?

This is nothing new, they are just doing what Hitler did…stealing terms from the left. National Socialism anyone?

Alexstarfire, in Chicago Develops Exciting New Form of Gun Crime | National Review

I don’t really understand why immigrants that are victims of crime in the US get preferential treatment for immigration VISAs. Can someone explain that to me?

MachineFab812, in [7/10 voters... want to see third-party/independent candidates in presidential debate this cycle] 71 percent in poll want RFK Jr., third parties in debate [Julia Mueller | 05/20/24 | The Hill]

You had me until RFK Jr. …

moody, in Trump pitch to oil companies turns off two-thirds of likely voters, poll finds [Saul Elbein | 05/21/24 | The Hill]

The key takeaway from the article is that the statement in the headline only applied when nobody was named as this deal maker.

When they were told that it was Trump who was making these deals, only 12% claimed they might reconsider.

criitz,

Damn, you’re right. Here’s the data mentioned in the article. Only republicans changed their view like that, so hopefully undecided/swing voters will truly be dissuaded from voting for him.

jimmydoreisalefty, in [Latest NH Journal/Praecones Analytica poll] Biden, Trump tied in New Hampshire survey [Sarah Fortinsky | 05/21/24 | The Hill]
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elbarto777, in How much do illegal immigrants cost the U.S.?

Check out the posting history of OP. It’s part of a Russian or Chinese propaganda machine.

Blocked.

joes, in How much do illegal immigrants cost the U.S.?

can’t pay taxes if you put them in jail.

Anticorp,

They don’t pay taxes anyway, since they work under the table. But that’s not a reason to put them in jail, that’s a reason to make them citizens, or at least legal immigrants. Bring us your hungry, your tired, your poor.

elbarto777, (edited )

They may not pay income taxes, but they can’t escape paying any taxes.

Sales tax, rent taxes (or even property taxes for those lucky enough to buy property), transportation-related taxes, travel taxes, tolls, etc.

That “illegal immigrants pay no taxes” claim is false.

Anticorp,

Obviously they pay sales tax. When people are talking about them not paying taxes, they’re talking about income taxes, which is the lion’s share of taxes that average people pay. I’ve worked in industries heavily impacted by illegal immigration before, and even legal citizens often end up working under the table on those crews, because the employers are straight-up crooks. It seems to me that the best solutions are to fast-track legal status, and actually punish the employers.

elbarto777,

Nah brah. You and I may know that. But when the common folk says “illegals don’t pay them taxes” they refer to absolutely no taxes. And the GOP hasn’t corrected them i wonder why.

And you’re absolutely right about the employers. People blaming undocumented immigrants for their struggles are focusing in the wrong target.

SkyezOpen, in How much do illegal immigrants cost the U.S.?

How much does an 815 day long 3 day special military operation cost, Ivan? Where are your armored vehicles? WHY ARE THE VATNIKS DRIVING CIVILIAN CARS THROUGH MINEFIELDS, IVAN?

kvasir476, in How much do illegal immigrants cost the U.S.?

FAIR (Federation for American Immigration Reform) who conducted the “study” cited in the article are considered a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

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