While the media posted by the influencer has been removed, numerous text interactions with the deleted posts from his followers are still on the platform. Some of those posts mention a child depicted in the photos as young as one and a half years old.
To make matters worse, the image appears to have been on the platform for several days before being removed. Lucre even described the image in detail in a separate tweet, noting that it had been taken from a video. The video in question involved the abuse of three children, one of whom was reportedly strangled to death after the filming.
The CSAM material was left up for FOUR DAYS (July 22-26) before he was even suspended. Then they let him “delete” it…and reinstated him. People commented during those 4 days DESCRIBING THE IMAGES.
What the FUCK please tell me this is worth a visit from the FBI, getting removed from the App Store, some massive GDPR violation, fucking something. How is this story not bigger news?
To put this in perspective, 4 graphic CSAM images that an account with 500,000 followers posted were left up on Twitter for 4 days. The person who posted the images was suspended for less than a day.
Why do you keep defending this monstrous shit? Is this just a primitive MY TEAM response? Anything for your tribe, even defending posting screenshots from one of the most evil videos ever made? Like what in the serious fuck is wrong with you?
Unfortunately, it’s a term everyone should know. It “replaces” the label child porn, because while it’s universally known as horrible, it’s not “porn.” It’s evidence of child sexual abuse. Hence “child sexual abuse material.”
Correction: child sexual abuse material. Basically it’s better than the term “child porn” because it’s not literally not porn. Porn is literally created by consenting adults
Content warning: I deliberately avoid providing much more detail than "it was clearly CSAM" but I do mention the overall tweet contents and pretext.
I remember this from when it happened and unfortunately did see the text portion and thumbnail from the original tweet.
He did it under the pretext of reporting on the arrest of a person involved in the video and large-scale CSAM production. It started as a standard news-report-style where they list the name, age and arrest details of someone taken into custody. Initially it looked like the normal alt-right tweet about "look at how paedophilia is rampant and the world is sinful!".
The guy describes himself as "chief trumpster" and a "breaker of narratives" and journalist. He claimed the details of the CSAM were provided by the Dutch police. He then described the title and detailed events of a CSAM video in the tweet. Unfortunately for me, the detailed events were below the tweet fold, so I had no idea it was going there until I expanded it.
The tweet image attachment or link unfurl thumb had a frame from the video itself. It was an otherwise-SFW image the adult abuser who was being talked about. Unfortunately I didn't realise until after I had expanded the tweet text contents what the thumbnail was. I actually thought it was an opengraph error at first.
Even in the context of "reporting shocking content" the tweet was way over the line and went from 0 to 100 in a few words. I did not need the info on the CSAM, nobody except the police and courts does. The video title alone was over the line.
Musk phrasing this as another "I was told" decision is just him knowingly deferring responsibility.
Thanks, it was partly my fault for taking a curiosity tour of Twitter to see whether there was a noticeable right-wing shift from a few months earlier.
Hopefully I can at least prevent someone from having to go try to find the context for themselves and finding the full tweet, because it was awful even as text.
I assumed there would be "they took it out of context!" apologia when it was inevitably reported on, but the actual context didn't improve anything or abdicate anyone from responsibility.
My heart goes out to the human moderators at twitter who had to see more of it and didn't have the choice to bail before learning more. And obviously also to the victims of one of the most heinous acts I've ever heard about.
For what it's worth, I had no idea if it was the absolute worst journalistic judgement I have ever seen, or a way for him to find more CSAM, or some bizarre combo. That is something for the FBI to find out. But I do know the decision to unban him is beyond wild, even for someone trying to bankrupt a social media company. Text almost never makes me physically recoil.
Yeah, even if we give them the benefit of the doubt that it was a bad attempt at journalism, there’s no reason to defend them. Also bizarre that Elon would even get involved in it.
Should I call it X because all that was cool about Twitter is now dead so it would make sense to stop giving that terrible social network any credit from the former one?
Or should I continue to call it Twitter because I know it will infuriate Musk that no one recognise X as his own company?
Or should I use a totally different name that everybody will understand, like say The dead bird, and kill two birds with one stone?
Just one, one drop in a sea of lunacy and megalomania. But that’s Elon. Now if this guy took over a company that directly impacted your profits, what would you do?
The real sad thing is that even if he is the Yahoo to Tumblr, it won’t impact him one iota. He’ll still be rich as all creation and people will still fawn over him and listen to what he has to say.
Because Elon musk (as well as everyone in positions of power) are all pedos. Every single one of them. These are the fuckwads that hang out of Epsteins island.
It’s also why nothing is being done about it because everyone that’s in a position to do anything about it is also a pedo and they don’t want to disrupt their pedo experiences.
That’s all the uber wealthy are into. They use their power and influence to get away with it my corrupting everyone around them.
Please don’t misuse the word pedophile as a synonym for child sexual abuser. Public health experts warn that doing so misleads the public about the causes of abuse, and impedes abuse prevention psychologytoday.com/…/performative-rage-over-pedo…
do you have proof that he rapes children (“has sex with children” is not a thing btw. That’s called rape).
child sexual abuser is not the same thing as pedophile. The vast majority of people that sexually abuse children are not attracted to prepubescent children (literally the requirement for someone being a pedophile), and therefore do not fit the criteria of being a pedophile.
Did you wake up today, and think, “Hey, these pedophiles are unfairly getting mislabeled. I’m going to go defend their preferred nomenclature on the internet today?”
I literally volunteer for a child sex abuse prevention organization. And yes, if we truly care about preventing child sex abuse then we need to acknowledge that there is a difference between pedophiles (people attracted to prepubescent children) and child sex abusers (people who sexually abuse children) (spoiler: most people that sexually abuse children, are not attracted to prepubescent children, and therefore do not fit the criteria of being pedophiles)
Fucking someone under the age of 18 makes you a pedophile. End of story. You’re arguing semantics like fucking a 17 year old isn’t that bad, or at least that’s how you come off. I appreciate your work but that’s just not a distinction anyone cares to make. A pedo is a pedo.
it literally doesn’t. Someone is only a pedophile if they have a persistent sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children. Someone is a child sex abuser if they rape someone under the age of 18.
You’re right. That isn’t “a distincting anyone cares to make” because sadly most people think that their feelings are more important than actually preventing sexual abuse. Disappointing, obviously, but it is what it is I guess.
I’d also add that a defense of ignorance becomes harder to attribute his moves to when he is surrounded by people who inform him. Choosing not to listen to them seems malicious.
Maybe after a few too wrong moves, he’s trying to tank the company and make people think he’s doing it on purpose so he could say that all this time he’s been doing it on purpose. On purpose on purpose.
I believe that all of these major players are being controlled at almost gunpoint into destroying their platforms and making horrible business decisions (facebook, twitter, youtube, etc).
I don’t want to spend any more time looking up this sickening shit but it seems the tweet he screenshotted was not the one he was banned for (surprise!). He also posted screencaps of a CP video related to the case. Fuck this asshole, his followers and twitter as a whole.
Not even supporting him, I heard about him for the first time today. So reading what other people say it seems he added a thumbnail which is sfw but from a very nasty video in his "news posting".
That’s not the actual context. There are screenshots of people who replied to the deleted images…describing the images. I saw those actual replies and friends saw the images and yes, reported them to the FBI.
The account has 500,000 followers and the pics were up for 4 days before he was suspended. I assure you, there were many comments about the images.
The photo on the right is an image from the video that was sent. It is the one year old named Daisy. She was one of the babies that was rescued thankfully.
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