I get so angry seeing women in western democracies defending this barbaric subjugation of women.
All religions suck, but Islam never having gone through any kind of reformation is a special kind of fucked up when it comes to women.
Worst of all is seeing my liberal friends defending Islam, like some kind of PC pissing contest completely abandoning our brothers and sisters living in these theocracies.
I wouldn’t necessarily say that everything about religions is bad. For example, Christmas is a religious holiday and I genuinely like it because I can meet with my family, friends and we give presents to each other. So there are some nice aspects of religions.
However, living a life only according to a religion is quite stupid. You are just making your life harder for no good reason. Arguing that you should do something because <insert a religious reason here> is quite stupid.
Same for hijabs. If the someone wants to wear it, then they are free to do so but forcing someone to wear it is just nonsensical. Sorry but I think there are more practical clothes when it’s 35 degrees outside and it should be everyone’s choice what to wear (as long as certain rules are respected such as no nudity unless otherwise stated).
Simply said: many religious practices lack pragmatic reasoning behind them and make the life harder.
Not exactly. Most Christian holidays are redefined existing holidays. Christmas was “oh everyone already celebrates a feast around midwinter, let’s make it a celebration of the birth of Jesus so we can still do the celebration but in a Christian way”.
I strongly believe Christmas would be celebrated even if Jesus was born in a different season. And that the celebration would be adjusted to that season.
There is already some debate about what time of year the birth actually happened. Most people agree that regardless of the actual day, it probably wasn’t Dec 25 (or the equivalent if using other calendars). That’s just the one that people agreed to use.
It didn’t though. Christmas was invented by the Christians to help convert Pagans of the time by saying that Christianity fits in with their celebrations. Christmas origins come from the Roman celebration of Saturnalia.
December 25 was the traditional date of the winter solstice in the Roman Empire,[45] where most Christians lived, and the Roman festival Dies Natalis Solis Invicti (birthday of Sol Invictus, the ‘Invincible Sun’) had been held on this date since 274 AD.[46]
I honestly didn’t even use reddit that much. I had an account lying there for a long time but after the shenanigans that happened, I left and joined this.
Either way, it’s a common fallacy or logical argument where you pick out the tiniest thing to invalidate someone’s entire argument vs just that one thing.
Just imagine how fun it is trying to tell people constantly how blanketswithsmallpox was never a thing despite being native, being well sourced, and having the info pinned to your profile lol. Granted, it’s insensitive for a reason just like how people had usernames in the old day like titfuckercuntqueef. With mine people just have to Google though lol.
It’s a Christian holiday. Just because Christianity permeates culture so strongly you don’t notice its dominance doesn’t make it stop being a Christian, and religious, holiday.
Nope. It may be religious for Christians but that’s about it. The civilized world is laughing at you. What’s funny is how Neo Christians are just racist confederates hiding behind religion to shield themselves from criticism of their views because they know if they are honest about it and just tell people they don’t like people of color or gays, they’ll be shunned from society. Cowards. At least Atheists are honest about their views.
What’s even funnier is how being a bigot is the only part of the Bible they know. We don’t see Neo Christians following any of Christs teachings. They wouldn’t elect Jesus if he was a modern day politician. Comical.
Just some gun toting Christian’s who routinely let their pastor rape their children. it would be hilarious if it weren’t so fucking sad.
You’re so steeped in a Christian culture, you seem not realize it. Just like there are atheistic Jewish people, who participate and identify with Jewish culture, there are large swaths of people who are atheists but participating in Christian culture. I don’t think anyone would seriously argue that passover isn’t a religious holiday even if many atheists are celebrating it.
And what is being celebrated in a religious way on Christmas? Presents? So consumerism is religious now lol ok sure. The only thing Christian religions have in common is their hate. I already provided a link to wiki showing the origins of winter solstice (Christians can try to claim it as their, whatever) but you conveniently ignored it.
Another thing I find hilarious is how they’re “Christians” now, even though there are so many ingroups like Catholic, Mormons or Baptists etc. and that they are all extremely different but had to consolidate to hide the fact they’re all losing members in droves.
Because you ignore the wiki source and continue to espouse your lies I will conclude you are either a bot or simply arguing in bad faith. In either event I will not entertain you further.
In the West, it is a choice, and that is good. That’s what Iranian women also want: choice.
This echoes the argument against the prohibition of abortions. Pro-choice means that women can have the option to choose to have an abortion, not that they will be getting them for breakfast.
True dat. Anecdotal. I’m in Canada and one of my daughter (11) friends is Iranian. Have her parents in my phone and watch particularly her dad’s WhatsApp status. Wish I new Farsi cause goddamn they are pissed at the government there big time.
Are the mullahs still getting publicly disrespected and gunned down? That was epic, seeing those bloody effers getting a tiny taste of the brutality they’ve been doling out capriciously for the last 40 years. They’ve done wonders to make many Iranians go from marginally religious to adamantly anti-Islam, political or otherwise.
What about cutting off the end of every baby boys dick because some cereal magnate wanted kids not to masturbate 100 years ago? Sounds like ass backward savagery, too.
Hundreds of millions of people practice Islam peacefully. This is about an authoritarian state using Islam as a tool.
Would the world be better without religion? Probably, but realistically we’d still find other stupid things to divide ourselves over and other tools for authoritarian states to control their citizens with.
The CIA installed a religious zealot dictator… idk why you’re being downvoted lol. Let’s all just pretend the CIA hasn’t been fucking up democratically elected governments for almost a century
Because 40 years have passed without direct intervention in their government and they’re just as bad. Will you still blame the west for Iranian oppression in 50 years? 80? 100?
It depends! Obviously the US isn’t entirely at fault. After our shenanigans there was like permanent war in the region (also mostly the US) which never helps. The destabilizing effects are still present and can be traced back to the US in no small part.
Slavery was outlawed over 100 years ago in the US yet we are still dealing with the ramifications. Stuff doesn’t just happen in a vacuum
edit: I should also note the US propped up a dictator who was corrupt and overthrown by religious zealots. They have been ruled by extremists ever since. It seems like a direct connection to me ¯_(ツ)_/¯
All I know is that at some point, it goes from a valid criticism to a way to attack the US without giving ANY agency to the bad actors in Iran who have been far worse than the shah. Many many Iranians in Iran at this point consider the US and Israel allies in opposition. Downvote me straight to hell but it’s a fact.
Seventy four lashes for not wearing a piece of cloth on one’s head. That will permanently scar her entire back of her body. I hope terrible things happen to those that tortured her.
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