Buelldozer, (edited )
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To Europe’s credit there really hasn’t been a reason to suggest Russia would do anything more than remain corrupt within its nation and perhaps a few puppet states — for the longest time, Ukraine being one of them.

So if I go along with your logic to give the European’s a half-pass on the problem then why shouldn’t US Conservatives get one as well? If it wasn’t a problem and no one should have been worried then why is it only an issue that US Conservatives have to answer for?

To this day Russia by no means has nor had the capacity to attack NATO…

They “couldn’t” because Europe was relying on the U.S. to shitwreck them if they tried and they’re still relying on it right now in 2024. It’s why the Euro part of NATO freaks the fuck out every time the US gets even the tiniest bit wobbly about its participation.

So did Europe just 10 years ago expect to be popping up a non-member eastern european state? Not really.

Forget propping up Ukraine, they can’t even properly guarantee their own security; which again has been said by every single US President since Bill Clinton. They didn’t need to predict Ukraine prior to 2012 but they refused to even take it seriously for themselves!

It couldn’t even take Ukraine despite its blitz.

Yeah, because the US, the UK, and Canada got busy training and equipping Ukraine’s military after Crimea in 2014. All the while being ridiculed by the exact same people who are now pissed off that the US isn’t committing enough military power fast enough. Without the investments in training and equipping Ukraine’s military the Russian blitz would have absolutely led to the fall of Ukraine in the first 30 days.

Even Mitt Romney was laughed off the debate stage when he said Russia was a #1 Geopolitical threat (which, I still kind of think that was an out-of-touch guess that makes him look good in retrospect).

He said that in 2012 and two years later Russia proved that it wasn’t a good guess and then 8 years later, while the Euro’s were ridiculing the Biden Administration, Russia again proved that Romney was correct. History has proven that Romney was ridiculed by the ignorant, the stupid, and those whose pockets were stuffed with Rubles.

So I can understand why Western Europe has felt insulated from them…

Every single comment you can make along the “insulated” line is doubly true for the United States so I won’t be giving Europe that requested half-pass.

The United States along with Canada and the UK was doing their part long before it was trendy, everyone else are Johnny-Come-Latelys looking to shovel the blame onto someone else.

My comment should in no way be construed as support for US Conservatives and their lack of support for Ukraine. The United States should be sending more military power to Ukraine and they should be doing it faster. I’m just really tired of the Europeans getting a pass for their woeful lack of preparation even after the alarms bells started loudly clanging back in 2014.

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