That's awful, but perhaps better than stuck for hours or days inside of a dead, dark, cold submarine at the bottom of the ocean as the oxygen slowly runs out.
That's the thing I'm not sure of. Did they have CO2 scrubbers on board?or were they constantly flushing out the old air with fresh air? Cause if you have 200 hrs of time with the scrubbers, and 96 he's of air, you'll die of hypoxia. But if you have no scrubber and just constantly flush the air through, then when the air runs out it's much worse. My guess is they have CO2 scrubbers just cause it seems like a much easier way to carry enough breathing gas for that many people for that long. But I'm really guessing.
Indeed it would. The CO2 would trigger the breathing reflex and panic. Hypoxia does not trigger that and you start to lose yourself, similar to being drunk.
I think the problem is more being stuck in a dark small and cramped space with 4 other people for 96 hours, where there is no on-board toilet and you just don't know if help will arrive in time or not.
Compared to that, I think an instant death due to implosion sounds preferrable.
RIP to those who parished. I think most can take solace knowing that if it turns out to be true that it was an implosion, it would have been instant, and the occupants likely felt nothing. .
At that depth, I feel like creaking and cracking is probably common. However, I don't think there would be any spraying as an indicator. Based on this tweet I saw earlier.
Yeah but they had to get to that depth. With the pressure gradually increasing, I don’t see why it’s not possible for them to hear creaking and groaning as the pressure increased, until they eventually reached fatal depth.
Catastrophic Implosion of a submersible explained:
When a submarine hull collapses, it moves inward at about 1,500 miles per hour - that’s 2,200 feet per second.
The time required for complete collapse is 20 / 2,200 seconds = about 1 millisecond.
A human brain responds instinctually to stimulus at about 25 milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds.
The air inside a sub has a fairly high concentration of hydrocarbon vapors.
When the hull collapses it behaves like a very large piston on a very large Diesel engine.
The air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Large blobs of fat (that would be humans) incinerate and are turned to ash and dust quicker than you can blink your eye.
Info Source: Dave Corley, former Nuke sub officer
I can't be the only idiot who didn't realize the Titanic went down that close to Maine/Newfoundland. I'm 38 years old and never once even thought about where they actually sank.
Around the same age and this was my main takeaway from all this as well. One of my parents was watching the BBC with their coverage of it and I saw the map yesterday and was like wow, was it really that close? What was I doing in school?
I will not celebrate peoples' deaths, but I will not necessarily mourn them either. Their relatives certainly did not ask for this (regardless what you think of them), and they have to deal with this for the rest of their lives. Maybe some will get over this, maybe some will not.
At least it's a relief that there was no suffering.
Question... why wasn't this an unmanned, remotely controlled submarine with a front-mounted camera? If it had been destroyed, that would have been a lot of money up in smoke, but no lives lost.
Because the purpose was to see it in person. If they wanted to see footage of it they could do that from home but there' s definitely something for seeing things with your own eyes.
I'm completely oboard with what they wanted to do since cameras never do a sight justice. They just did it in a really sketchy way. Of course I'm also cool with people doing sketchy things but it sure seems this was being done as a business thing with customers and without proofing it multiple times. And honestly this should've been just an ROV with passenger capsule and probably tethered.
I feep bad for the 19 year old who got dragged along by his dad, but honestly as an endeavor it was kind of begging for a disaster to happen.
Like if you go back and look at interviews from a while ago the guy is talking about how bullshit the safety regulations are and how hes not going to follow them because thats what innovation is all about.
To be honest, good riddance. The world is better off without a handful of billionaires who spend their money gawking at mass graves.
It pisses me off that 6 ultra-wealthy people disappear in a sub that they got in FOR FUCKING FUN turns into an international story and caused taxpayer dollars from multiple countries to go into searching for them. Even though, once again, this was entirely optional for them and they knew the risks going in, and in fact paid for those risks. It’s been the focus of a large part of the internet for 2 days now, and the news won’t shut up about it.
Meanwhile, a boat carrying hundreds of migrants crashed 3 days ago, HUNDREDS of people are dead, and the news treats it as a footnote. It isn’t getting talked about by half the threads on reddit and lemmy. Nobody is posting long, concerned posts about how it’s “so awful” people are talking poorly about the migrants. Those people were trying to get a better life and they just get ignored, but some dude decides he wants to pay 500k to take his son to the fucking titanic because that seems cool and suddenly it’s an I ternational search and rescue effort at the bottom of the goddamn ocean
3 of the passengers were lifelong explorers - the ex french navy guy, the ceo, and the billionaire that had already gone to space. I believe those three probably fully consented to the risks, and I don’t have any particular sympathy for them.
But the other guy didn’t have an adventurous background, and I wonder if he really understood what he was getting into. Still, he was an adult responsible for himself.
The teengager however… no way he was fully aware of the risks. Teens still think they’re invincible, especially rich ones. Him I feel sorry for.
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