theodewere,
theodewere avatar

"First of all, it should be remembered that Putin is not just a president of an aggressor country, but he is wanted by the International Criminal Court and accused of genocide and war crimes," MEP Urmas Paet, who previously served as Estonia's foreign minister, told Newsweek.

so Carlson is there doing propaganda for a war criminal and wanted man

Omega_Haxors,

My favorite thing about the interview is when he literally told Putin to “shut the fuck up and get back to the script” when he started talking about the Nazis being bad. Like shit man, if you didn’t have the soft power you had I don’t think you’d be leaving Russia after that one.

It was wild in general seeing Putin as not being the most wicked man in the room, which isn’t hard when the other person is probably one of the most notorious neo-nazi propagandists in America who literally quit their golden job because they asked him to hide the racism a bit better.

RoseTintedGlasses, (edited )
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Omega_Haxors,

That should tell you what America’s goals ultimately are.

ComRed2,

Cucker was in danger of sliding into irrelevance after the fox news firing. His twitter show was a failure too. He knew he needed to do something big to stay relevant and this is that thing. He’ll be able to ride it for a while but after it fizzles out, he’ll need to come up with the next attention-grabbing scheme. It’s all about keeping the grift going. He doesn’t give a shit about any of this, It’s all about the money and the fame.

RonPaulyShore,
@RonPaulyShore@hexbear.net avatar

Another demonstration of the vaunted Western Values^TM^

CloutAtlas,

Tucker should be sanctioned for being a bowtie wearing shit eating reactionary named “Tucker” first and foremost.

Melina,
@Melina@hexbear.net avatar

Facts

n3m37h,

Shame. He could have taken out 2 fashists with 1 press of a button…

SoyViking,
@SoyViking@hexbear.net avatar

Tucker Carlson is a fascist prick but this is ridiculous. He interviewed a guy and made it public. He did basic journalism. It might not be good journalism and it might be biased against the official party line but it is not like he has shot up an Ukrainian orphanage or something.

M68040,
@M68040@hexbear.net avatar

Okay I don’t really like this bootleg Cold War thing we’ve got going on but any outcome where Tucker Carlson gets harmed is one I can accept

huf,

first they came for the carlsons and i was … i cant

PanArab,
@PanArab@lemmy.ml avatar

Freedom of the press and protection of journalists in the West. If he went to talk to Netanyahu no one would have minded.

geneva_convenience,

Too true. Our Media publishes all of Israels lies on the front page with a tiny quote that attributes it to the IDF.

They repeat those lies over multiple articles. And they keep quoting those lies. Over and over.

But one interview with Putin is a line too far…

Moonrise2473,

Main difference is that one is an evil war criminal while the other is a “good” war criminal

D61,

Tucker spouting white supremacist homophobic transphobic speech

EU sleeps

Tucker flies to the EU or Russia to talk to another right winger about the weather or some shit

EU freak out

Really lets you know what their priorities are.

aaaaaaadjsf,
@aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net avatar

Eagerly awaiting the EU to sanction all US aligned propagandists as well…

Oh wait that will never happen

n0m4n,

I have followed ‘news’ from Russian outlets such as RT and Sputnik, being recast as Right wing talking points within hours. This is not just recent, it has been going on for years. Hamilton68 documents examples. The parallels of this propaganda being sown to the lies dispensed to Ukraine to sow dissention is obvious. It is a cheap warfare, and it works. Tucker was and is in the trade of packaging Russian propaganda as news. He should be labeled as such. Carlson was discredited and fired by Fox. Spreading lies, admitting to doing so on archived tapes, and iirc, sexual harassment was in his part of the discovery on Fox’s $780M settlement. In short, Tucker Carlson is on record for knowingly spreading lies, for personal monetary benefit. This is more of the same. I hope every person watches Carlson, knowing that Carlson reports what enriches him, not truth. Carlson has a transparent agenda. The unanswered question is who pays Carlson. That will be obvious by who’s boots that Carlson’s reports shine.

GarbageShoot,

This is in part one of those situations where your argument amounts to question-begging. The reason being, just as a test: What if Russia was on the correct side of the war, would this still be coherent? Is there any contradiction in these Russian publicity outlets publishing correct information that is then opportunistically used by the rival party to the current US administration to discredit the latter?

If you already assume slava ukra’ini and that reactionaries have some magical inability to say things that are true, you can make a coherent story, but I would argue that the antithesis is at least as coherent a story.

I’m sure RT, etc. also publish bullshit that is also used by the right just as readily, but imo the Russian center-right can get by on policy wrt Ukraine by simply reporting facts faithfully, because theirs is a position [shared by much of the Russian left as well] that is only more justified as historical context increases and actors are more closely scrutinized. I was objectively late to the party when, in 2018, I was reading about the CIA backing Azov, but still I saw reality completely recast leading up to the invasion and thereby I had some advantage over the liberals who seem to believe that Ukraine is Palestine despite the fact that it’s Ukraine slaughtering ethnic minorities.

It doesn’t help that Ukraine can’t seem to find pictures of its military that don’t include fascist symbols, or that they absolutely wear their banderite bullshit on their sleeve if you actually listen to them speak. You can just report on these things faithfully and make the Ukrainian government and especially its military look monstrous to many viewers.

TheCaconym,

Tucker was and is in the trade of packaging Russian propaganda as news

And much of the US “journalists” are in the business of packaging US propaganda as news. There is just as much propaganda - if not more - in general US news. Since the US likes to portray itself as hosting a free press, one would assume (if one were pretty naive, admittedly) it would be glad to have reporting on the Russian government’s positions and communiqués.

Hamilton68 documents examples

lmao this is a CIA outlet:

The organization is chaired and run primarily by former senior United States intelligence and State Department officials. Laura Thornton, formerly of International IDEA, joined ASD as its new director in May 2021. Laura Rosenberger, chair of the American Institute in Taiwan and former senior director for China on the Biden administration’s National Security Council, previously served as a director of ASD. ASD is housed at the German Marshall Fund of the United States and its work spans across both the United States and Europe

Even the fucking Washington Post (of all newpapers !) admits they’re not exactly a source to be trusted.

davel,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Matt Taibbi: Move Over, Jayson Blair: Meet Hamilton 68, the New King of Media Fraud The Twitter Files reveal that one of the most common news sources of the Trump era was a scam, making ordinary American political conversations look like Russian spywork

MSNBC Repeats Hamilton 68 Lies 279 Times in 11 Minutes

Chris Hedges: Why Russiagate Won’t Go Away

What_Religion_R_They,
@What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net avatar

I know this is obvious but it’s so disheartening seeing the right monopolizing aspects of communist rhetoric just due to the amount of capital giving it a massive platform.

ulkesh,
@ulkesh@beehaw.org avatar

It’s amazing what lengths Carlson goes to in order to stay relevant. Sad, really.

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