Assian_Candor,
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Vietnam all over again

krolden,
@krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

Israel has pushed for Hamas to fill out the initial release with younger male hostages, including soldiers, the Israeli official said.

Yeah fuck women and children first right?

Perfide,

Not defending Israel here, but my understanding was they did want women and children for the initial 40 released. Hamas said they don’t have 40 women and children to release, so now Israel is demanding they release militarily capable hostages in order to hit the 40 number.

sepulcher,

Essentially.

Women are not intrinsically more valuable than men.

Alsephina,

Tends to happen when a military fucking carpet bombs everything.

The settler government cares more about killing the native Palestinians than they do about getting hostages back (well, more like POWs ig since most of them are IDF conscripts)

PanArab,
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The IOF killed them in their bombings of Gaza

lemmyseizethemeans,

Um, when you carpet bomb the entire area

ShimmeringKoi,
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That tends to happen after a WW2-level mass bombing and starvation campaign, yeah. Of course, the IOF already knew that. This was never about hostages.

MysticDaedra,

It also tends to happen when you use the women and children as sexual objects and sell them into sexual slavery, which is what Hamas has been doing.

BakerBagel,

Would sure love to see any reports of that. But i won’t hold my breath since you are clearly an IDF sock puppet

HeadfullofSoup,

Let's be real if those reports exist they are probably about IDF doing that and not hamas

NoneOfUrBusiness,

What the fuck? We've seen reports of sexual assault (not flat-out rape AFAIK, but that doesn't make it much better) against a few hostages, but nothing about it happening to children and sure as hell no sexual slavery. These hostages are there for a reason.

MysticDaedra,

There are literally videos and pictures of Hamas and Gazan civilians raping women and children (yes... children...) during the October 7th massacre. Many of the few women rescued from Hamas' clutches claimed to have been raped, and the doctors who inspected/treated them also confirmed this. It's not propaganda, it's fact.

Yes, the hostages are there because Hamas is an evil terrorist regime with no respect for human life. Their mission is literally to wipe out all Jews in Israel and the entire world. Defending them is... not a great look for anybody.

NoneOfUrBusiness,

Look in these situations you need to distinguish between things that happened on and after October 7th. While I haven't heard of child rape during October 7th, the context is about the hostages already in Gaza.

CrimeDad,

Joined three hours ago to share a creepy pedophilic fantasy in a news community. Blocked and banned.

moe93,
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FriendBesto, (edited )

Of course it never was. It was about optics positioning, glorified manipulative marketing for the normies and idealogues. To claim to not want to be bombing them back to the stone age and to drive them out.

There was a leaked intelligence paper/memo weeks ago that essentially showed that their entire master plan was to kick them, the Palestinians out of Gaza. Hoping some other country would take them. That is why they were pushing them south too.

lemmyseizethemeans,

Hannibal doctrine ain’t got time for hostages

nekandro,

CNN’s record of the conditions of the hostages also suggests there are fewer than 40 living hostages who meet the proposed criteria.

With Hamas appearing to be unable to reach 40 in the proposed categories, Israel has pushed for Hamas to fill out the initial release with younger male hostages, including soldiers, the Israeli official said.

The majority of the almost 100 hostages who remain alive are believed to be male IDF soldiers or men of military reserve age. Hamas is expected to try to use to them in later phases to try to negotiate more significant concessions, including more high-level prisoners and a permanent end to the war.

I’m sorry, I’m just going to repeat the relevant part again: The majority of the almost 100 hostages who remain alive are believed to be male IDF soldiers or men of military reserve age.

The majority of the almost 100 hostages who remain alive are believed to be male IDF soldiers or men of military reserve age.

The majority of the almost 100 hostages who remain alive are believed to be male IDF soldiers or men of military reserve age.

RedditWanderer,

I feel like those shouldn’t be called hostages, they’re POWs

cybervseas,

That’s a big “or” isn’t it? It was a music festival so it is no surprise there are a lot of young men.

bamboo,

The hostages are believed to be Santa #or men of military reserve age

lemmyman,

I’m lacking context or something because I don’t understand why that is so significant.

Alsephina,

It means most of the hostages aren’t “civilians” as many people claim. So they’re more like POWs.

There aren’t really many “civilians” in israel to begin with tbf, except children. Half the population are IDF conscripts, and most of the other half are fascist settlers and colonizers just the same. Those were the main casualties in the Oct 7 attack too.

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