A_Chilean_Cyborg,
@A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl avatar

wow

AlternatePersonMan,

Jesus. Why can’t they make whistle blowers anonymous?

warmaster, (edited )

Edit: Why should I trust an anonymous source?

Explanation to my doubt:

In computer science, wouldn’t that be like proprietary software only being auditable by cherry picked 3rd parties? In this case I should also need to trust the auditor.

In contrast, in FOSS software, all code is open to the public and can be audited publicly.

Edit2: I value privacy, that’s why I use Linux and Librewolf. I just don’t understand how that translate to this case.

As I now understand how my original post was conveying a different message from what I intended to ask, I copy it below:

Would you trust an anonymous source ?

Downvotes to an honest question. I should take a break from internet.

AlexanderESmith,
AlexanderESmith avatar

I don't care who it is, they give the information, then authorities verify it. If it comes up verified, there you go.

cyberpunk007,

Sometimes you can’t verify things though

AlexanderESmith,
AlexanderESmith avatar

Then it still doesn't matter. If an identified source gives information that isn't verifiable, it's still not actionable.

RestrictedAccount,

Look! Another Boeing fell from the sky!

-verified

unreasonabro,

another boeing went boing boing

… there’s an awful song in there somewhere

orcrist,

We already have enough evidence to verify a lot of the horrible things that has happened at these two companies. So what you wrote might be true in some situations, but it has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

unreasonabro,

cmon honky what are we talking about, what is the current subject

that’s right, they killed the guy who could verify the stuff

like fn work with us here, geez ;)

Mountaineer,
@Mountaineer@aussie.zone avatar

This is how you end up with police making up an “anonymous tip” which allows them to gain a warrant and dig through the personal possessions of anyone they don’t like.

The problem isn’t solve with anonymity, but by actually protecting the whistle blowers.

AlexanderESmith,
AlexanderESmith avatar

The authorities should be able to dig through the possessions of massive companies that are fucking up so bad that planes fall out of the sky.

Chainweasel,

A lot of people believe everything they read on Facebook so…

PsychedSy,

This isn’t an allegation floating in the ether. Specific allegations can be investigated, usually pretty objectively.

orcrist,

Why would you trust any source, anonymous or otherwise, if you had the option to confirm what they said? … Like here, where we did, where we do.

aStonedSanta,

I’d say we could trust the police to verify but yeah… I’d trust an anon source verified by AP more than the local police in most areas by a fucking mile.

unreasonabro, (edited )

Obviously it depends on the quality of the information, doesn’t it

like if it’s some rando just bullshitting, that’s gonna be obvious

if he’s dropping insider secrets or sounding authoritative, that requires investigation

but we’re a bit past all that right

Like you are aware of the wider context of what often happens to whistleblowers, time and again, … like you’re not just in here shooting your mouth off right, you know something about it when you deign to ask such a glib question? Or have you done none of your homework and just wanted to bless us with the annoying noise you made?

Viking_Hippie, (edited )

Would you trust an anonymous source ?

In cases like this where anonymity is likely necessary to divulge crucial information and survive? Absolutely. You sound like you have no idea how journalism in general and confidential sources in particular works.

Downvotes to an honest question

Honest question, my ass! It was obviously a rhetorical question meant to imply that anonymous sources are inherently not trustworthy.

warmaster,

Honest question, my ass! It was obviously a rhetorical question meant to imply that anonymous sources are inherently not trustworthy

This made me realize the message I was transmitting. I edited my post in hope I can better express my question. Sorry for writing like a moron.

INHALE_VEGETABLES,

Its not, but you know your comment reads like corporate shilling yeah?

Viking_Hippie,

How? I’m literally arguing that anonymous whistleblowers aren’t inherently untrustworthy. That’s the OPPOSITE of what corporate shills keep saying!

INHALE_VEGETABLES,

I replied to the wrong comment but if it helps my case at all, I’m self diagnosed as retarded.

trk,
@trk@aussie.zone avatar

Downvotes to an honest question. I should take a break from internet.

Complaining about internet numbers? That’s a downvote.

warmaster, (edited )

Downvotes take content to the bottom, diminishing it’s relevancy. It’s not egotistical. I had a question that I wanted to ask in order to learn. Later I learned that my question was conveying the wrong message, so I edited my post to better communicate my doubt. You may interpret that internet points equal ego points, but they are in fact relevancy points. In this case in particular, asking about anonimity and trust, is as on-topic as it can get, so I do question the reason for less relevancy to my question now. But I acknowledge the reason for less relevancy in my original post, as it was being interpreted as I wasn’t asking a question but conveying an opinion.

Edit: healthy discussion is what Lemmy is all about. Downvoting an honest question is hindering that principle.

trk,
@trk@aussie.zone avatar

And all of that would still be true without the “woe is me” addendum to your post.

Elonkilledmydad,

Found the ego

tiefling,

How else would they be able to intimidate them?

Jimmycrackcrack,

Holy shit.

Shadow,
@Shadow@lemmy.ca avatar

Paywall:

Joshua Dean, a former quality auditor at Boeing supplier Spirit AeroSystems and one of the first whistleblowers to allege Spirit leadership had ignored manufacturing defects on the 737 MAX, died Tuesday morning after a struggle with a sudden, fast-spreading infection.

Known as Josh, Dean lived in Wichita, Kan., where Spirit is based. He was 45, had been in good health and was noted for having a healthy lifestyle.

He died after two weeks in critical condition, his aunt Carol Parsons said.

Spirit spokesperson Joe Buccino said: “Our thoughts are with Josh Dean’s family. This sudden loss is stunning news here and for his loved ones.”

Dean had given a deposition in a Spirit shareholder lawsuit and also filed a complaint with the Federal Aviation Administration alleging “serious and gross misconduct by senior quality management of the 737 production line” at Spirit.

Spirit fired Dean in April 2023, and he had filed a complaint with the Department of Labor alleging his termination was in retaliation for raising concerns related to aviation safety.

Parsons said Dean became ill and went to the hospital because he was having trouble breathing just over two weeks ago. He was intubated and developed pneumonia and then a serious bacterial infection, MRSA.

His condition deteriorated rapidly, and he was airlifted from Wichita to a hospital in Oklahoma City, Parsons said. There he was put on an ECMO machine, which circulates and oxygenates a patient’s blood outside the body, taking over heart and lung function when a patient’s organs don’t work on their own.

His mother posted a message Friday on Facebook relating all those details and saying that Dean was “fighting for his life.”

jodanlime,
@jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

I had MRSA once, it’s so easy to spread and there is zero doubt in my mind that it could be weaponized. Criminal investigations are necessary after TWO whistleblowers are offed. I’m not holding my breath though. Boeing is too entrenched in the MIP to be investigated in any real sense of the word.

huginn,

Pneumonia isn’t.

The guy just got pneumonia and then caught a secondary. This happens all the time.

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