thelsim,
@thelsim@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s terrible… She’s her daughter in every way.
And the thought of losing your child if something happens to your partner, it breaks my heart.

rivermonster,

Fucking fascists and fucking Organized Rape Worldwide (I may have spelled catholics wrong).

Trolled,

Organized Rape Worldwide LOL

xuxebiko, (edited )

Your spelling is fine . particularly when we remember the deaf children at the Antonio Provolo Institute for Deaf and Hearing Impaired Children in Lujan de Cuyo who were abused, tortured, and raped by priests for more than a decade. and the priiests had helpers who helped them commit these horrors. Of course, the pope and his vatican knew about it and chose to let it continue. cos that's what they do.

sources:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/priests-found-guilty-of-abusing-deaf-children-at-argentine-school

https://english.elpais.com/elpais/2017/05/15/inenglish/1494846873_269569.html (alternate link : https://archive.ph/9Pa26)

https://cruxnow.com/global-church/2016/12/argentina-probes-sex-abuse-deaf-school-vatican-knew (alterate link : https://archive.ph/e2t6z)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/the-pope-ignored-them-alleged-abuse-of-deaf-children-on-two-continents-points-to-vatican-failings/2019/02/18/07db1bdc-fd60-11e8-a17e-162b712e8fc2_story.html (Alterate link : https://archive.ph/N9IzF)

https://international.la-croix.com/news/religion/new-trial-linked-to-clergy-rape-of-deaf-children-in-argentina/14240 (alterate link : https://archive.ph/8W6QZ)

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/02/pope-francis-catholic-abuse-povolo-schools.html

Anyone who can read these accounts without throwing up has a stronger constituton than me.

Duke_Nukem_1990,

Fucking fascists doing fascist things.

fugepe,

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  • Ludo,

    The prime minister of Italy is a full blown, card carrying fascist, you ignorant clown.

    "Giorgia Meloni (Italian: [ˈdʒordʒa meˈloːni]; born 15 January 1977) is an Italian politician who has been serving as the prime minister of Italy since 22 October 2022, the first woman to hold this position. A member of the Chamber of Deputies since 2006, she has led the Brothers of Italy (FdI) political party since 2014, and she has been the president of the European Conservatives and Reformists Party since 2020.

    In 1992, Meloni joined the Youth Front, the youth wing of the Italian Social Movement (MSI), a neo-fascist political party founded in 1946 by former followers of Italian fascism. She later became the national leader of Student Action, the student movement of the National Alliance (AN), a post-fascist party that became the MSI’s legal successor in 1995 and moved towards national conservatism.

    Rengoku2,

    I would vote for her then if I could. She looks pro.

    mayo,
    @mayo@lemmy.world avatar

    You’re not welcome here btw.

    Rengoku2,

    Dont care.

    Trolled,

    wall of text

    Ludo,

    It’s two paragraphs you drama queen. God Forbid you have to actually read anything.

    Rosriv,

    That's something I learned from reading too many books about WWII. It all started with the little things. What's that "first they came" quote again?

    First they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
    Then they came for the Socialists and I did not speak out because I was not a Socialist.
    Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
    Then they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
    Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.

    afraid_of_zombies,

    Yet another proof that religion doesn’t help anyone

    APassenger,

    All you need for evil to prevail is “good boundaries.”

    grue,

    You know what’s ironic about that quote, especially in the context of this thread? The group who they really came for first was the LGBTQ, not the Communists. Even in the act of lamenting his failure to speak out, Niemöller failed to speak out about them.

    Another related “fun” fact: the very first NAZI book burnings “included around 20,000 unique works on intersexuality, homosexuality, and transgender topics” from the Institute of Sex Research.

    barsoap,

    It’s a bit more complicated as the whole of the SA was basically a gay orgy. Certainly not the queer kind of gay, though.

    Super_Stone,

    The group who they really came for first was the LGBTQ

    Thats still not really taught in german schools (or at least mine) even though we have this subject at least a whole year in history class.

    And whats also not taught is that the more that ten thousand gay people that were thrown in KZs were only rehabilitated in 2001 and those that were sentenced after 1945 in 2017. After the Nazi regime was over the persecution of queer people did not just stop.

    LwL,

    The nazis absolutely came first for the communists, as that was literally part of their rise to power, blaming the communists for the Reichtagsbrand and jailing members of the KPD and SPD so they couldn’t vote against the proposal to give the NSDAP full control.

    Alternatively, the NSDAPs founding program 10 years earlier contained “revocation of the german citizenship of jews” as a main point, though they didn’t have the ability to do much at the time.

    bappity,
    @bappity@lemmy.world avatar

    you have to be sub-human trash to be ok with this

    yeepyorp,

    earlier, i wrote a comment saying not to use fascism to hate humanity; at the same time, the fact that fascists are also human is something we have to acknowledge so we can stop our loved ones from falling into it

    Trolled,

    guess im “sub-human trash” then ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    youthinkyouknowme,

    You created an account just to be an asshole? Jesus that’s sad

    lingh0e,

    They think they’re being edgy.

    fsxylo,

    Guess you are.

    Trolled,

    ok

    forrgott,

    Upvoted to show agreement with your statement 8-D

    lingh0e,

    Good. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery.

    You don’t HAVE to be bigoted trash. It IS possible to learn empathy for your fellow man, to understand that a person’s sexuality does not make them more or less of a person. It IS possible to change your ways. It IS possible to make the changes within yourself… the changes that you need to make in order to prevent a sad future where your own children disown you for being a shitheel goon. It is possible to be, you know… a good person.

    But I also get the feeling that you are too obsessed with the smell of your own farts to have any real understanding of how dumb you sound. Who cares if no one else wants to smell your wafting shit odor? You’re perfectly happy simmering in your own idiot stink.

    It’s not too late. You don’t have to be on the wrong side of history.

    mayo,
    @mayo@lemmy.world avatar

    The thought that keeps me sane through this is believing that the pendulum swings both ways. We have to accept that there are people who like this, and I’m going to hate them for it, but opposition will always exist.

    On the whole (a long time) things in society have improved and they’ll continue to improve over time. It might just be our lot to have a shit round.


    Except for climate change. That’s existential.

    xuxebiko,

    right-wing political parties have ''be sub-human trash' written in their manifesto and yet people vote them into power.

    From the article "Italy’s Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, leader of the far-right Brothers of Italy party, made anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric a cornerstone of her campaign for office. She opposes allowing same-sex couples to adopt as well as marriage quality, calling civil union “good enough” for LGBTQ+ couples."

    marmo7ade,

    In the USA, if I were to adopt a child, would my name be put on the birth certificate? I don’t actually know how this works. How does the birth certificate affect the legal guardians?

    Edit: nvm, I read the article:

    While same-sex civil unions have been legal in the country since 2016, same-sex couples do not have the right to adopt, thanks in part to opposition from the Catholic Church. Surrogacy remains illegal in Italy and there are restrictions that prevent the adoption of “stepchildren” by one parent. Medically assisted reproduction, like in vitro fertilization (IVF), is only available to heterosexual couples.

    Italy needs to fix a lot of things.

    stephfinitely,
    stephfinitely avatar

    Wow that was haunting to read. How much they hurt these people that just want a family is sickening.

    xuxebiko,

    look at their history. the cruelty is the point.

    barsoap,

    and there are restrictions that prevent the adoption of “stepchildren” by one parent.

    That one was judged unconstitutional in Germany as it bereaves the child of a perfectly suitable caregiver – that is it wasn’t a matter of gay rights for the court but children’s rights. In the end, before gay marriage was introduced, the only difference between marriages and civil unions was that gay couples could not adopt jointly, only one after the other, and generally speaking authorities are quite reluctant when it comes to singles adopting kids they aren’t related to by blood.

    grue,

    It’s not enough to carve out a portion of your sovereignty for the kid diddler cult

    Huh, TIL the Catholic Church had lost all its territory to Italy and then later was granted some back (by Mussolini, no less) instead of having continuous sovereignty stemming from the Papal States and predating a unified Italy itself.

    That’s the second time in two days that I’ve been about to “ackchyually” somebody but ended up learning something myself instead. I’m getting more and more impressed with the quality of discussion here on Lemmy.

    AlwaysNowNeverNotMe,
    AlwaysNowNeverNotMe avatar

    It's not enough to carve out a portion of your sovereignty for the kid diddler cult to have a golden castle city guarded by foreign mercenaries, you also have to listen to their stances on parenthood, which they are, surely, experts, in.

    Anka,

    My daughter would loose her second mother though she has been there for her since birth and even before that.

    My wife would not be allowed to sign a document for our daughter or visit her in the hospital when she is sick.

    I absolutely don’t know how the Italiens can accept such a move.

    Trolled,

    you cant even spell italeans LOL

    power,

    Mfs when German and French exist

    BetaBlake,

    You’re not even a good troll

    Tigbitties,
    Tigbitties avatar

    Cutely is the point.

    TWG,

    Cruelty you mean? I hope at least

    Backspacecentury,

    Well that's horrible.

    stephfinitely,
    stephfinitely avatar

    Absolutely disgusting.

    AndrewZabar,

    I’m so sick of humanity.

    yeepyorp, (edited )

    it’s not all of humanity doing this, it’s fascists. don’t use the rise of fascism to hate all of humanity, just fight it.

    edit: “all of”

    DarkWasp,

    But fascists are a part of humanity, I don’t get this?

    yeepyorp,

    edited my comment to clarify

    xuxebiko,

    no. fascists choose to act inhumanely towards others while wanting the benefits of humanity for themselves.

    jennwiththesea,
    @jennwiththesea@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s like if you hate mushrooms. You don’t say that you hate all food, just mushrooms.

    AlwaysNowNeverNotMe,
    AlwaysNowNeverNotMe avatar

    Centralized systems lend themselves to fascism, and our species is undergoing it's most all encompassing centralization ever.

    anolemmi,

    It’s hard to fathom how the people who enact these laws can fall asleep and feel like they’re doing something positive for the world.

    xuxebiko,

    they know they're being terrible. the cruelty is the point.

    xuxebiko,

    inhumanity is guaranteed when a right-wing political party forms the government.

    From the article "Italy’s Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, leader of the far-right Brothers of Italy party, made anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric a cornerstone of her campaign for office. She opposes allowing same-sex couples to adopt as well as marriage quality, calling civil union “good enough” for LGBTQ+ couples."

    fugepe,

    lmao

    GreaterDane,

    But the mayor of Padua, Sergio Giordani, is defying the government’s orders and continuing to issue birth certificates recognizing two-mom families.

    God bless this man. May the rest of Italy be so bold!

    pinkdrunkenelephants,

    And so it motherfucking begins 🤦

    utopianfiat,

    Where have you been for like the entire Berlusconi administration

    Mair,
    @Mair@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    10 million hatreds upon those who have wronged us

    InternetTubes,

    Elected fascists doing elected fascist things. Spain is going to be like this soon enough as well, maybe together they will roll the welcome mat for Putin as well.

    girltwink,

    Spain? That’s extremely disappointing. Spain was my backup plan if the United States decides to do a genocide. I guess it’s Canada now?

    iesou,

    Italy was mine…

    utopianfiat,

    No dude, they’re not fascists, they’re socialists. Social media says everyone in Europe is to the left of America

    InternetTubes,

    Left and right are artificial, meaningless constructs, and I will never get tired of saying that. Reality is complex, but people are idiots. If there is any political division, it is more along the lines of the parties that try to follow their political goals within the structure of their constitution and design of their governments, and those that don’t mind breaking it to achieve their goals.

    Coreidan,

    Ok well I was never planning on going to Italy anyway. Sounds like a real shit hole.

    lulztard,

    Facists announcing that they will oppress minorities when they’re being voted into power.

    Gets voted into power. Oppresses minorities.

    People
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