Manzas,

As a Lithuanian can confirm why would you learn this language unless you are staying for a long time.

pocopene,

The thing with France is that their reaction is the same if you don’t speak French either.

Hadriscus,

I’m from Marseille so not strictly speaking french but if you speak my language I’m going to be delighted and will let you know. France should really be sliced in half at around waist height

Aux,

French should really be sliced in half at around waist height

FIFY

Sorry, I’ve spent too much time in UK, lol.

rainynight65,

The correct legend for France is:

“Please don’t.

Also, don’t speak foreign. Especially not English.”

MethodicalSpark,

“In fact, just don’t speak to me at all.”

thechadwick,

Really should be a gradient ring around Paris tbf. Lovely welcoming Alsace and smelly dismissive Paris isn’t really a fair characterization at all.

Anticorp,

Japan is also in the red category.

EmoDuck,

I don’t see why parts of that map are blue and grey. Why not also make it a different shade of red. Or in fact, make everything the same shade of red.

Because fuck readability I guess

fizix,

It’s not quite a spectrum

DavidGarcia,

beer is the only word you need to know when going to croatia

SubArcticTundra,
@SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

In blue countries people will make a point of correcting your mistakes

jol,

Learning Danish at the moment. The language is fun but the pronunciation is so cursed, God help me. German pronunciation was a walk in the park. So glad they all speak fluent English.

Anders,

Try Norwegian instead. Basically the same language, but without the potato shoved down your throat!

jol,

Germany might be like that in Berlin and to an expect in some other big cities, but in most of the country, das ist Deutschland, wir sprechen deutsch!!

bort,

Das Leben ist zu kurz um Deutsch zu lernen.

ArcaneSlime,

Mein deutsch ist sehr schlect. Ich kenne alle wort zu Eine Insel Mit Zwei Bergen though.

AllNewTypeFace,
@AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space avatar

Is the blue bit in Sweden near the Norwegian border a dialect area or a lake?

kungen,

It’s Vänern, the largest lake in Sweden and the EU.

athkore,

Lake

protist,

Went to Turkey once and people seemed genuinely impressed when we attempted to speak Turkish. They also seemed impressed we were Americans. Almost all the other English-speaking tourists we met were older Brits, many of which acted pretty haughty. I guess they’re less used to Americans visiting. Turns out on the West Coast at least a large portion of Turks speak English

Skua,

There's a huge contingent of Brits who go to a place that's sunny, reasonably close by, and relatively cheap and just stay on a gated resort for the entire week. I've had lengthy conversations about holidays with people before where it took a good while to discover that they saw literally none of the country they visited beyond the resort and the route between the resort and the airport

crispy_kilt,

There’s a portion of the population doing the same in any country

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t think I agree with Spain unless you are in Barcelona and managed to say a few words in Catalán.

IWantToFuckSpez,

This is why expats in the Netherlands never learn Dutch even after years of living there. I know of people who lived in Amsterdam for 10 years and still don’t know any Dutch beyond “Hoe gaat het? Één stroopwafel alsjeblieft” the worst thing is that their kids who have spent most of their lives in the Netherlands don’t speak a lick of Dutch either, because these elitists send their kids to international school.

GregorGizeh,

I hate the term expat. It’s completely made up to not be grouped with the not white immigrants. It also goes with the condescending attitude of not really wanting to integrate with their new country, such as your international school and not learning the language examples.

fristislurper,
@fristislurper@feddit.nl avatar

I think it has its place. There is a clear difference between someone coming to a country for a limited time to do some specialized work with the intention of leaving, compared to someone who has little or no intention of ever returning to their country of origin. Both categories are incompareble in the type of support they need (or want), where they live, whether they need to learn the language, etc. Just ignoring the difference is a bit silly.

Although I agree the term is misused sometimes.

ikka,
@ikka@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

theguardian.com/…/white-people-expats-immigrants-…

There is definitely a distinction between expatriate and immigrant, but I have very very rarely seen it used properly. As the previous poster wrote, it really does feel like the main difference between an expat and an immigrant, colloquially, is the color of skin.

crispy_kilt,

expats

You mean immigrants?

uis,

Somewhere’s emmigrants

AI_toothbrush,

Lol what? In sweden for example i go to an international school because i dont speak swedish. And when i want to learn it they tell me that i cant attend the lessons because i cant speak swedish. When i try to speak to someone in swedish they notice that im making mistakes and automatically switch to english without even asking me. Its not the immigrants its the native speakers who have an attitude.

kungen,

when i want to learn it they tell me that i cant attend the lessons because i cant speak swedish

What courses exactly? What’s your knowledge level? Because you won’t be able to join SAS (svenska som andraspråk) classes until you have a good basic comprehension from for example SFI (svenska för invandrare). Depending on your age, your town should have Komvux (adult education) classes for both SFI and SAS.

Successful_Try543,

Or maybe some organisation offers a språkfika.

ikka,
@ikka@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

NotJustBikes moment

kinttach,

I spoke Spanish at a shop in Barcelona and they were not my friend.

crispy_kilt,

That’s because you spoke Castilian, not Catalan.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Barcelona is the capital of Cataluña. Try a few words in Catalán next time.

…m.wikipedia.org/…/Catalan_independence_movement

Sagan,

Coneixeu alguna comunitat catalana a Lemmy? Hi havia lemmy.cat però el servidor es va tancar fa una estona. He trobat info.prou.be però és l’únic que tinc la impressió

VirtualOdour,

Yeah Spain is brutal for that, catalan is the least friendly region pretty much anywhere in Europe but the rest of Spain you get the same rudeness for not knowing exactly what their special local custom or dislect is. Mostly from older women and loud men.

It’s funny because they have a lot of really laid back folk too, it’s very polar.

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