ArcaneSlime

@ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Migrating here (or maybe keeping both) from @ArcaneSlime

Will put an eternal curse on your enemies for a Cinemageddon invite.

This profile is from a federated server and may be incomplete. Browse more on the original instance.

ArcaneSlime,

Wait can we say retard again? I thought that was one of the no-no words adults have been forbidden to say by other adults.

ArcaneSlime,

So I actually have no dog in this fight but I read this

If you believe in evolution then you can agree that foreskin exists for a biological function, right?

Counterpoint: that was before “pants.”

Good question though, most of the animal world has retractable peni, why’d we lose that ability? Now I’m curious.

Also, shouldn’t the religious oppose it because it is fucking with “God’s creation?” Frankly them supporting it seems like flawed logic to me.

ArcaneSlime,

I have, but it’s rare I even know who to thank. Some like Benn Venn (and his joey jr) know they have my undying gratitude though.

ArcaneSlime,

I thought it was a joke about how people are always fighting over vim vs emacs.

We all know that nano had a more basic funeral than both, though it was easy to work with as the instructions were laid out. (Jk)

ArcaneSlime,

Absolutely not, they’re everywhere.

ArcaneSlime,

Am arcane and slimy, was descriptive.

ArcaneSlime,

And zyklon b.

ArcaneSlime,

Thanks, installed! Will be a day or two before I get off my ass and log in using it though.

ArcaneSlime,

Fuck HP.

This post was brought to you by the Brother Laser Printer gang.

ArcaneSlime,

Same lmao.

ArcaneSlime,

Also make sure you’re on an instance that federates with porn instances, iirc lemmy.ml does not, for example.

ArcaneSlime,

Well yes, but it was chosen because it means marxist-leninist to them, or that is what they used to claim. Now they claim that it was chosen because it was free, as they don’t believe in paying for domains, but also fmhy.ml was reclaimed because it was a free domain and lemmy.ml wasn’t reclaimed supposedly because they do pay for the “free domain they don’t believe in paying for.”

So "???”

ArcaneSlime,

Yes but also they haven’t been removed like fmhy.ml “because fmhy.ml was free” so what’s up with that?

ArcaneSlime,

Ehhhh, not buying that.

ArcaneSlime,

No it’s a Christmas novel. No L, noel…

ArcaneSlime,

Yes. Any layman with 15min of instruction (with THAT firearm, not even another of the same kind, THAT ONE) should be able to unload and show clear, OR they don’t get greenlit to hold a real gun, nonfiring replicas only.

We’re only giving him a pass because he’s an “actor,” I used to be a pizza driver and showed my boss my carry one night, before I passed it to him I gave him a basic run down on how to make sure it was safe, handed it to him and he reproduced it instantly. You’re telling me, that I can expect a Jordanian man who has never held a gun, who is just an owner-operator of a local pizza spot, to check if the gun is safe, but not Alec Baldwin who was Jack Ryan in The Hunt for Red October (had gun), a cop in The Departed (had gun), 30 Rock (one episode he had gun), was in Miami Blues (with a gun), The Getaway (with a gun), The Juror (had a gun), The Edge (gun), Pixie (guns), and he can’t be bothered to learn how to use them safely? Fuck that.

ArcaneSlime,

I take gun safety seriously, and yes, I will argue people who say gun safety is not necessary because “he is an actor.” People die from negligent disgarges every day, this is a serious issue. Thank you.

ArcaneSlime,

This seems to be the case. Personally I’m clearly on the side of the gun world, I think it’s high time we stop letting actors treat guns as toys, it is so irresponsible and clearly leads to deaths, and it is litterally just this video. Sure, accidents can still happen like Brandon Lee’s, but Cooper’s Four Rules is an absolute bare minimum standard that they should have to meet before holding a gun capable of firing live rounds (even if there are no live rounds on set, it is an 8 minute video, it really isn’t that much.

Every time you go to a new indoor range, they require you to watch a breif safety video like the one above, this is literally the one they make you watch at one of my local ranges. I’m not asking for a dissertation on the mechanical workings of the Krag, I’m asking for the most basic safety precautions.

ArcaneSlime,

In short, no u. We were talking about unloading and showing clear, not decocking. See, if the hammer is cocked before you’ve done this, you have already fucked up.

This part, with the time code, shows him “unloading and showing clear.”

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LMbEGhll3E&t=32

The part where he presses the button to open the cylinder and visually inspect that there are no rounds present. That’s all. No trigger involved. The single action revolver’s cylinder in the movie doesn’t even swing out like this btw, he has to do this, specifically, as this was the type of gun used (notice how the nice man didn’t touch the trigger? In fact he made sure to say DON’T touch the trigger? Finger high on the frame? Yeah, as I said, no u, cheesedick) and he absolutely should have been instructed on how and expected to do it every time he picks up a gun, just like anyone else on the planet who doesn’t have the all powerful excuse of “I’m just an actor bro.”

ArcaneSlime,

Complacency kills, accidents can and do happen at any experience level. In fact I’d argue they may happen more with those who have grown too comfortable with firearms, usually the newbies are appropriatly cautious. I’d be real interested to see some data on that but idt anyone is compiling it.

If I had my guess as to “why,” your buddy sounds like he falls into this trap (at least when drunk, which tends to exacerbate feelings of “Ah shut up I know what I’m doing.” Lol) Hopefully he’s better about it these days!

ArcaneSlime,

ITT: “Basic gun safety isn’t necessary if you have a SAG card.”

ArcaneSlime,

I don’t think any knowledge can be permanently retained from a one-hour class.

I learned how to build AR-15s in an hour and retained it, they can learn how to do this and this in an hour and if they can’t they can’t handle real guns until they can.

Not to mention, I doubt a one hour course could cover the mechanisms of every uniquely-operated firearm in existence.

While most will be the same as their class of weaponry (i.e semi autos mostly all function the same, revolvers mostly all function the same, and single action revolvers mostly all function the same), you really just need to sit them down for a few minutes before the shoot and get them familiarized with the gun they’ll be using. For instance, an actor in a cowboy movie should be sat down before filming and learn how to safely handle the Winchester and Colt he’ll be using for the duration of filming, but we don’t need to teach him how to change barrels on an MG-42 because that won’t be “invented” for another 80yrs. Similarly, a WWII german soldier actor in saving private ryan needs to learn about his “issued” Luger or Walther p38, and his Kar98k, not the cowboy’s SAA and Model 1891. And Tom Hanks needs to learn about his Colt 1911, but not “the enemy” actor’s Luger, so long as he isn’t touching the Luger. They don’t need to be weapons experts, just have absolutely basic knowledge of the thing in their hand that is capable of killing someone whether they “meant to” or not. It is the same thing I expect from pizza drivers, butchers, baristas, etc, I don’t care what you do for a living if you touch guns you should know basic safety procedures involving them, why should he get a pass because he’s an actor, when I wouldn’t give a pass to the equally unrelated-to-firearms job of accounting?

ArcaneSlime,

Seriously, it’s baffling! I think the disconnect comes from none of these people knowing how to use guns and thinking it somehow involves a masters degree to know how to check for rounds, when all people are really saying is to learn four whole rules of safety and how to do this, this, and this, (and depending on the gun you use you only have to even learn 1 of these 3)!

If you watched all four of those videos and retained the information, congrats, you’re ready, and you wouldn’t have killed that lady. It is that easy, do y’all see why we think he’s partially culpable now?

ArcaneSlime,

Ah, so you can call me dumb, but if I insult you back I get reported and my comment gets removed, eh? Logical. Well, while I await response from the mods here regarding sending me that text so I can edit it more palpably for the children in the audience, I’ll reconstruct why you’re actually the one who posseses the attributes ascribed to both me and revolvers by you above.

Not only did that man not touch the trigger while he did what one would describe as “unload and show clear,” this is a video on “decocking,” which is an entirely different principle. In the video you sent he actually does it without touching the trigger at around the 32sec mark (there was a link with a time code included in my OG comment, but this time you’ll have to put in the work because I have youtube running), when he presses the lever, opens the cylinder, and visually inspects the cylinder to verify the lack of ammunition, in order to make the gun safe for demonstration purposes. Not one time in that process did he touch the trigger (besides waiting 30sec in to do it, note to youtuber: Bad guntuber, that is the first thing you do and you know that, bad guntuber! Feel shame!)

That also wasn’t the kind of revolver used in Rust, they were using a Colt SAA, like this one. This is how to unload and check the gun that was in Baldwin’s hand when he shot that lady. Notice how the nice man in the video doesn’t pull the trigger? Actually, did you hear him specifically say not to touch the trigger? Instead to keep your finger high on the frame? Yeah, who posesses the properties you ascribe to revolvers now, you revolver? (Shucks, I hope I can get away with that one, golly gee.)

Baldwin absolutely should have been expected to know how to do this, not because “everyone should” or some such nonsense as most of this thread purports my side’s argument to be, but because he was holding one. Had he not been holding one I wouldn’t be saying he needs to learn about it. For instance, you aren’t holding one, so you don’t have to learn (besides the fact that I’m correcting your misinformation and teaching it to you, so in a sense you do), but if you were going to go buy a Cimmaron or Uberti Colt SAA clone, yes, I would expect that you learn how to use one safely. Hell, if I got one and was showing it to you at my house, I would teach it to you before I even let you touch it.

Baldwin is not absolved of responsibility due to his job title not being related to firearms, I expect every human who touches a gun to know how to do so safely and if they don’t, don’t touch them. This is the absolute bare minimum expectation, and it is so that innocent people don’t needlessly die, it is a good thing not an imposition. He may be legally cleared due to his money and connections, but on a “karmic” level for lack of a better word he is at least as responsible as that armorer, if not more when you throw in all the behind the scenes stuff like “he was also the producer, and much of their gun safety team had walked off citing safety complaints, after they’d already had two noninjurious negligent discharges, and in fact were off set that day, and they chose not only to film, but to pick up that gun and point it at the camera for not a scene but just the lolz.”

How’s that? I insulted you but only by referrencing your insult, does that squeak past the censors?

ArcaneSlime,

You’re right and I’m making the switch to using this word while bitching about their stalking.

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
  • •
  • megavids
  • khanakhh
  • mdbf
  • ethstaker
  • magazineikmin
  • GTA5RPClips
  • rosin
  • thenastyranch
  • Youngstown
  • InstantRegret
  • slotface
  • osvaldo12
  • kavyap
  • DreamBathrooms
  • JUstTest
  • Durango
  • everett
  • cisconetworking
  • normalnudes
  • tester
  • ngwrru68w68
  • cubers
  • modclub
  • tacticalgear
  • provamag3
  • Leos
  • anitta
  • lostlight
  • All magazines
    •