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[Serious] Why do so many people seem to hate veganism?

Seen a lot of posts on Lemmy with vegan-adjacent sentiments but the comments are typically very critical of vegan ideas, even when they don’t come from vegans themselves. Why is this topic in particular so polarising on the internet? Especially since unlike politics for example, it seems like people don’t really get upset by...

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These people don’t have answers to this question because they’re not interested in answers. They just want to feel smug and superior to everyone. Literally nothing would be good enough for them

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I read that

You could also frame it as liberals being on the side of religious freedom, though, which might include this shit

No one is trying to take anyone’s freedom. But that freedom includes participating in coercive, sexist, patriarchal practices designed around oppression, which is all that religion is. It doesn’t make it a feel good or wholesome story. Religion is inherently bigoted because it enforces obedience through manipulation

In any case, it’s sort of like, people decrying christianity at large as being shitty when realistically they just mean like, evangelicals, or catholics, or mormons, or jehovah’s witnesses, or maybe in some odd cases, quakers and mennonites

No, ALL christianity is shitty. It’s inherently shitty because its entire purpose is to subjugate through threat of eternal damnation (let alone literal threats and violence). There is literally no other purpose. And this isn’t specific to christianity. It’s inherent to all religions

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They’re basically exactly the same. Someone being generous about something that shouldn’t have been an issue in the first place.

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In the same way that posts about kids donating their money to pay off others kids school lunch debt, or charities paying for cancer patients care are bad because they focus on the positive to that specific person instead of the shitty situation that causes them to be in that position in the first place, yes

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No. People who don’t think sexist religious conservative values should be applauded. This is basically orphan crushing machine material

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No one’s talking about removing choice. But not all choices are equally valid. And many choices are coerced due to religious patriarchal structures which are not actually true choices

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If your argument is that dresses are the same level of subjugation as hijabs, you’re either trolling or are completely ignorant. It’s not really even comparable in this day. There is basically no pressure for women to only wear dresses anymore. And it’s also not something that’s imposed by a religious rule. It was more of a general patriarchal society issue, which we also have issues with.

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I have no idea where this propaganda that is wasn’t so hard being a feudal peasant came from but it’s just laughable

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Right. My point was that what conservatives are worried about is exceedingly rare, and in the absolute most liberal place in the country, and it’s even still not a big deal and there are other options

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I’m saying it’s not big deal, and even the most liberal part of the US only has what the conservatives are complaining about in extremely rare circumstances in addition to other options, and it’s also not a big deal. That sounds perfectly relevant

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There ARE bathrooms that are co-ed. I live in San Francisco and I’ve seen them. But it’s very very rare, and I’ve only ever seen them at crowded places like theaters. And there’s 99% of the time additional private bathrooms.

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So I can’t make a comment with related info? Like the US culture wars aren’t relevant to what laws are being proposed in the UK?

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Are you 37 too like literally everyone on Lemmy?

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Terrible meme. Go is bad and you should feel bad

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