captainlezbian,

Concerns were noted that sometimes they let the wrong people keep their dignity

TIN,

Solving things that were never really problems whilst ignoring a heap of social injustice across the country? Yup, that sounds like the Tories.

Go on a plane, gender neutral toilets. On a train? Same thing. Most cafes like Pret or Nero have a single toilet that everyone uses without issue. What on earth are they solving here?

Viking_Hippie,

What on earth are they solving here?

Nothing, of course. Just pandering to the hateful and doing their best to portray harmless people trying to peacefully live their lives as scary “others” who are inherently predatory 🤬

Wolfman86,

In addition to that, have you ever even heard of a trans person assaulting someone?

echodot,

Well even if one did it won’t be prevented by gender separation of toilets.

Skullgrid,
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar

There’s no problem with privacy and dignity in gender neutral facilities, because it’s for one fucking person at a time.

Fal,
@Fal@yiffit.net avatar

There ARE bathrooms that are co-ed. I live in San Francisco and I’ve seen them. But it’s very very rare, and I’ve only ever seen them at crowded places like theaters. And there’s 99% of the time additional private bathrooms.

VaultBoyNewVegas,

K but I’ve never seen a cinema in the UK with mixed toilets so moot to the UK. Gender neutral here is like a disabled toilet or a small cafe which only has space for a single toilet.

Fal,
@Fal@yiffit.net avatar

Right. My point was that what conservatives are worried about is exceedingly rare, and in the absolute most liberal place in the country, and it’s even still not a big deal and there are other options

_skj,

“in the country”

Bruh, their point was you are talking about a different country. I happen to agree with your opinion, but how bathrooms work in Los Angeles has no bearing on the laws in the UK.

VaultBoyNewVegas,

Exactly and even in the UK the laws of England won’t necessarily be the same as the laws of Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Fal,
@Fal@yiffit.net avatar

So I can’t make a comment with related info? Like the US culture wars aren’t relevant to what laws are being proposed in the UK?

_skj,

Absolutely post relevant info, I’m saying your audience here doesn’t consider what you posted to be relevant.

If your comments had tied in to the greater anglosphere discussions around trans people or used the examples as a thing to emulate or avoid, that would be relevant.

As they are, your comments just sound like you think of England as an extension of the US or at least you think the lawmakers of England are concerned about bathrooms in California

Fal,
@Fal@yiffit.net avatar

I’m saying it’s not big deal, and even the most liberal part of the US only has what the conservatives are complaining about in extremely rare circumstances in addition to other options, and it’s also not a big deal. That sounds perfectly relevant

captainlezbian,

I had some in college and the occasional gay bar. They’re fine.

Worx,

I’m confused. In what way to universal toilets (toilet and sink in one self-contained room) not allow for the biological needs of women? Why are girls in schools getting UTIs because they’re so scared of peeing in universal toilets? Why don’t these work for trans people and NBs?

Is this anything other than just conservatives being transphobic and wanting to keep traditional toilets alive? I feel like I must be missing something here

As an aside...My dad’s church has just been refurbished with this style of toilet and he is very against them, but he’s also against trans people so…

Blamemeta,

You know the whole “bear or man” thing going around? It applies to bathrooms too.

Worx,

I don’t know the bear or man thing. I don’t think. I saw a post about debating a bear that I made a joke on, but I’m sure that what just a shitpost

can,
Worx,

Big Joel is always such a trip already that I stay away from Little Joel. He has such a unique way of looking at things

LemmyKnowsBest,

I honestly believe there is no real problem out in the real world with this. It’s just the media who is making this shit up to make people fight amongst themselves.

errer,

There should be no gendered bathrooms at all and everyone needs to grow the fuck up about performing natural bodily functions in the presence of anyone.

reversedposterior,

Most toilet facilities in England have a shared washing up area so in most cases it would be prohibitively expensive to convert older ones to having a basin etc in each stall. Newer buildings tend to build in single person toilets which are then universal. I think the fear for some comes from having shared washing areas.

Viking_Hippie,

I think the fear for some comes from having shared washing areas

Fear which is of course based on ridiculous fearmongering from transphobes and completely divorced from reality.

shalafi,

You know how I know you’re a man?

Viking_Hippie,

You know how I know you’re a bigot?

shalafi,

Yep! I see zero problems with a woman sharing a small space with strange men.

So yeah, you’re a man or you might have seen a woman’s point of view. Do I get to call you a misogynist?

Worx,

You’re not necessarily wrong, but also that wasn’t an argument made in the article so I don’t think it’s relevant here

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