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The core idea is that there are legacy programs that have acquired and are covertly researching non-human technology and biologics. These are a combination of compartmentalized government groups from the DoD, DoE, CIA, etc. and private contract companies. The programs are sealed away by over classification that prevents oversight. Even if you have clearance to know about the programs you’d need to know where to find them and who to seek for the information. And, just because these groups fall under a larger group like the DoD doesn’t mean the chain of command above them is in the know. They know that there are programs, they know just enough details about them, and that they’re needed. Outside of that, there is deliberate ignorance to limit any direct liability and to obfuscate effort to look into them.

While some individuals in Congress would have had briefings on incidents and certain programs in the past, they were still in the dark of the programs as a whole. David Grusch and other individuals provided testimony to help connect the dots needed for them to pursue disclosure. What Congress currently knows is pure speculation to the public, but there had to have been some damning details emerge that it has become a bipartisan effort in both the House and Senate to seek disclosure.

Naturally, there has been opposition so far from the DoD and members of Congress whose primary donors are companies with military contracts. Thanks to some legislation that has passed and more that is in the works, it seems that a form of disclosure is on the horizon. What the disclosure will entail and whether it will truly reveal any form of non-human intelligence is yet to be seen. But, over the next few years there will be details on legacy programs come to light. Some details will remain classified, but there should at least be enough come forward for the public to have a gist of what’s been going on and if there is indeed non-human intelligence involved.

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Interesting note that “non-human” appears 25 times in the 47 page amendment. That wording, grouped with “unknown origin”, is clearly casting a broad net to try to encompass anything that can’t directly be tied to human origin. Whatever the believed origin of some UAP are, both Democratic and Republican lawmakers are putting a lot of effort into uncovering potential non-human technology.

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I always hope that videos provide enough in the scenes to estimate depth and distance. One of the tricky things with capturing objects in the sky is that there will always be a sacrifice in what you capture. If you zoom in to just the sky, then you lose trees and objects on the ground to establish some sense of distance and visual anchors to match the movement of the objects to. If you’re zoomed out then you lose clarity of the object itself.

I do find the consistent rotation of the main object interesting. I’ve seen quite a few videos posted of objects that show tumbling movement, though it’s usually hard to make out exactly what they are.

Public sightings are a hard numbers game to win. It really just comes down to chance that someone with a good enough camera spots something and captures enough details. There’s a lot of open sky, time in the day, and not a ton of people actively watching the sky. But, enough videos like this can help categorize sightings to better determine what is anomalous.

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“Oh, I set her up. I asked about UFO within the Department of Energy. And they said, ‘Aliens don’t exist or spaceships,’ and after that: BOOM! Then everybody just lit her up,” Rep. Tim Burchett exclusively tells Ask a Pol. “Because they have a procedure in place and there were certain — and she said they’ve never had an incident of a nuclear facility, and there’s literally documented incidents. I mean, that’s weird.”

For reference, Burchett’s questions for Sec. Granholm followed Luna’s.

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You should see what they do during the closed door hearings.

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Article on sightings at LLNL.

On April 1, 2021, a Lawrence Livermore security supervisor reported an employee’s early morning sighting of “a possible drone hovering 50-75 feet off the ground in the buffer zone. Due to the darkness I only saw the red and white lights.” The supervisor consulted with a construction crew and drone operator in the area. Neither had been flying a drone at the time.

One report categorized as “Incident: Suspicious Occurrence” was recorded by a supervisor on April 30, 2019. It involved security escorts near Lawrence Livermore’s building 815. Having spoken with the escorts, the supervisor reported, “They both said, ‘I saw a round silver drone flying around the Process Area and periodically stopping and hovering for several seconds. Once it continued it flew to the north of my location and stopped and hovered for several more seconds. It flew over that area for several minutes and departed south east. It was really high up and it looked like it was just under the clouds.'” The supervisor adds, “The drone like object was flying at a distance and height that made identification of the object impossible for the employees.” The supervisor then contacted another employee “who said there was no scheduled flights for Site 300 today.” The supervisor then ordered a security sweep that found no one who might have been operating a drone.

Note the description in the second quote of it being a “round silver drone”

Edit: Additional reporting from The Debrief and the incident report for the 2019 encounter.

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One more thing… It doesn’t look like LLNL itself is a no-drone zone. I’m not sure the accuracy of this map, but it lists Sandia National Labs (located adjacent to LLNL) as a no drone zone. LLNL does seem to experiment with drones, but the reports in the prior article clearly weren’t objects they were aware of.

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Tim Burchett also asked about UAP earlier.

Interestingly enough, Lawrence Livermore National Labs was a focus in Luna’s questioning. A post in this community had previously asked about potential sightings around fusion sites, so I suggested LLNL as a potential focus. I hadn’t come across anything specific, so I’ll have to check into the event to see if there is public documentation on it. Curious to know more about it.

My response in the previous post about fission:

I never really considered it, mostly due to our current limitations around fusion. If anywhere would have a sighting due to that, it’d likely be National Ignition Facility in Livermore, CA. That facility, a part of Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, is the first to have break even on energy creating fusion.

I searched and couldn’t find any sightings directly attributed to the area around the labs. LLNL comes up a little in search regarding UAP research, but I haven’t jumped in that rabbit hole. However, they are near the California coast which does get a lot of sightings reported.

Extending the scope a bit, the sun gets a fair share of sightings. That could just be due to the fact that it’s constantly observed. The scale of object size compared to the sun and differentiating from objects drifting through space makes those sightings tricky to determine.

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I wanted to follow up that there may in fact have been a sighting near a fusion site, as Lawrence Livermore National Lab was mentioned in a hearing with the Department of Energy today.

Colonel Karl Nell - The Real Black Swan Event: The Controlled Disclosure of UAP & Non-Human Intelligence (www.youtube.com)

I updated the video’s link to SALT’s official video. I wasn’t expecting them to get the video up so fast, since their other videos seemed to take a while to be uploaded after events. Out of all of the NYC event’s discussions, this has been the first and only interview to get uploaded.

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“So, non-human intelligence exists, non-human intelligence has been interacting with humanity. This interaction is not new, and it’s been ongoing, and unelected people in the government are aware of that." “There’s zero doubt.” Colonel Karl Nell speaking at SALT on UAP, NHI and the state of disclosure.

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I’ve known his stance on the topic, but it’s still amazing to hear someone with his background stating that.

David Grusch had originally been scheduled for this event, but I’m happy that Knell spoke in his place. I’m also glad that he listed off other names that have spoken out on NHI and UAP. At this point it feels like an open secret in government and the military that just needs a little more push to get officially addressed.

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That stood out to me too. Given Nell’s roles over the years, it’s likely he’d have more access and potentially direct access to some of the programs previously mentioned by David Grusch. If that is the case, then he may be limited in what he can publicly discuss.

I’d definitely like to know what convinced him and what drives him to push for disclosure. Though, I can understand side stepping the question for this event. Today’s discussion didn’t seem to be geared to expanding on what’s currently out there for information on UAP and NHI. Rather, it was likely aimed at bringing the topic to a new audience.

Hopefully we hear more from Nell and others soon, along with more info to solidify their claims.

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Gallaudet brings a much needed additional perspective to the discussion. We have Grusch speaking of special access programs with recovered UAP, Fravor and Graves speaking of military and commercial pilot sightings, Schumer and others from Congress with access to military and intel briefings, and Gallaudet with oceanic and atmospheric data. That’s just a few of the recent names involved in a push for disclosure. Add in public and individual experiences over the years and it’s clear that there is a phenomenon occurring that deserves investigation and answers.

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Yeah, I searched last night to see if it was picked up anywhere and didn’t find anything significant. I’d imagine we’ll at least see some opinion articles soon, but I figured some news outlet would have run with this.

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Tim Burchett joined The Hill to discuss his new bill to declassify all UAP related documents. He also briefly touches on other events, such as a Tic-Tac sighting by a pilot and a former Admiral’s claims of a football field sized object traveling over 200 mph under water.

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One of the key things about tracking UAP seems to be narrowing down the spectrums at which they can be observed. Infrared seems to be more frequently reported for visual detection and there are specific radio frequencies they’re detected at. Even a presentation by AARO highlighted signatures that they’re often detected at.

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