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InstituteJerry, to random
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Try to contain your enthusiasm, but (when viewed on desktop) now has a "Detailed View" for shows.

Not much shaking here yet, a few metrics we've not yet exposed, but this will soon house more goodies, like hopefully song durations.

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@bourgwick @FateMusic @mrcompletely @dminches

This seems like the outcome here:

  • Jerrybase is NOT introducing any new "song" to represent the D/S section of the show.

  • @InstituteJerry thinks the way that section of the show is not coded correctly since variations are often not listed. But no one liked this suggested solution, so he is going to roll up a wooler and get over it.

Thanks for your input on the subject. :stealie:

InstituteJerry,
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@bourgwick @mrcompletely @FateMusic @dminches sure, give me all the notes you have, email works too. There is much work to do. Before I got drafted into other work this AM I listened to 8 or so Spaces from 1980, and the drummers were on 7 of them. Added a note to that effect.

InstituteJerry,
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@bourgwick @mrcompletely @FateMusic @dminches You can see why I tried to punt on this (as Deadbase did). Would rather spend time elsewhere, but hey, that's the job. These variations also complicate some of the Advanced Searching. After I get the data in the way I want it, I will need to circle around to that next. I have not lost track of your request to make "followed by" searches ignore non-songs. I am going to have to figure out an elegant way to do that.

InstituteJerry,
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@bourgwick @mrcompletely @FateMusic @dminches I enjoy it more than I thought I would, but it is time consuming, and derails the pipeline (as the Jams project did). With all this discovered work, things we want to do (new features/data sets) are seemingly getting farther away, not closer, which is a bit frustrating,

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@mrcompletely @bourgwick @FateMusic @dminches ping me on our slack when you have time, if you have cycles let's coordinate!

InstituteJerry, to random
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is moving to the model that Deadbase used for the Drum and Space section of shows.

They called it Drumz, we are going to call it "Drums and Space". Same thing though.

If you want to get a preview of what this will look like, we've deployed it to our test site.

https://test.jerrybase.com/songs/1693

Once we get it to the real site we will clean it up a bit, but you get the picture.

From our FAQ...

InstituteJerry,
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@bourgwick Yes, that is the plan. During those years 77-78 when the sequence was still evolving, if there is just a drum break, those will continue to be listed as Drums as they are today.

InstituteJerry,
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@bourgwick After the sequence ossified, the song will still be listed as "Drums and Space" and diversions from the typical layout will be footnotes.

InstituteJerry,
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@bourgwick re: Drums/Space, in theory I agree. The issue is we do not have the cycles to do it justice, I tried and lost my mind. However, the door is wide open for a contributor to provide us the data. If it is, say 90% complete, we will use it.

InstituteJerry,
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@bourgwick The actual name of the suite could be changed at any time. It would be a 1 minute change, feel free to suggest something. No one is in love with Drumz or "Drums and Space". But at least "Drums and Space" matches the term people use in conversation.

InstituteJerry,
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@bourgwick The problem has 2 parts:

  1. Whether we give a distinct name to this suite.
  2. What that name should be.

I am more attached to part 1, and some of my reasoning is utilitarian. We have many, many setlists where this portion of the show is just listed as Drums > Space, and there is a bunch of variation that we are missing, which we do not want to take the time to detail and perhaps invent new terms to represent, although we admit this would be a better solution. [1/2]

InstituteJerry,
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@bourgwick [2/2] As well (still on part 1) we are recognizing that this entity is it's own beast. The percussion portion was NOT similar to other Drum solos listed in setlists from the early 70's, and likewise with the Space section.

On part 2, I care way less. The underlying system knows this section as song 1693. We can flip flop on the name as much as we want.

InstituteJerry,
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@bourgwick I have a feeling I am not going to convince you ;)

As far as things with ids being "borg-like", well sorry, most objects represented by software have ids. On official releases sure they've always been broken out, but the setlist community has not always done that. Deadbase handled this just as I am proposing, perhaps the name was funky, but I did not find it confusing.

On imprecision, it is already there, we are not losing resolution here, just admitting it was never there.

InstituteJerry,
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@bourgwick @dminches we are trying to use this term more judiciously in , kick-out-the-jams project still underway. But on our j-card we will still sometimes list "jam".

SourceRolls, to music

Bands: what’s keeping your album covers from looking like this?

InstituteJerry,
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@SourceRolls this is what mine would look like

InstituteJerry, to jazz
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Found more brilliant shit when looking into ATA Records (the label of the Sorcerers). Work, Money, Death. Both releases from their bandcamp, brilliant! fans of spiritual might appreciate.

https://workmoneydeath.bandcamp.com/album/thought-action-reaction-interaction

InstituteJerry, to jazz
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Big thanks to aquariumdrunkard.com for turning me on to this fantastic release. Been listening all releases by The Sorcerers this week, all excellent :freddie:

https://sorcerers.bandcamp.com/album/i-too-am-a-stranger

InstituteJerry, to random
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We are now making some effort to explain ourselves. Please let me know if you have any other pressing questions.

https://jerrybase.com/faq

brucy, to music
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Quincy Jones - The Streetbeater

Aka Sanford & Son theme.
If you've never heard the back half, you should. (& JRAD would mess this up tbh)

https://youtu.be/O20Sljxmy9M?si=cCTAIJuQQWqQtlNK

InstituteJerry,
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@mrcompletely @brucy 🤣

InstituteJerry, to random
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Most excellent verb usage, deadheading.

InstituteJerry, to random
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A close friend pinged me this AM to report that Mayor McCheese waltzed across the stage last night at a Billy String show. Apparently, there is some precedent for McCheese appearances, I found one from a Leftover Salmon show in 2021. What is heaven's name is going on here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUytT0SrWXc

InstituteJerry,
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@mrcompletely Thanks, I will let her know. Stuff like this floats her boat (and rightly so) .

thediemustfall, to random
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Is February ‘73 as good or greater than May ‘77? Asking for a friend.

InstituteJerry,
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@mrcompletely @thediemustfall @mangrovevalley @InstituteJerry wondering why 2/15 Dane County 🔥is not yet released? I bet that would be very well received, tape is complete to my recollection.

InstituteJerry,
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@mrcompletely @mangrovevalley @thediemustfall Just noticed Casey Jones (last song in Set 1) is cut on the board tapes from 1973-02-15, missing like 2 mins. So perhaps that is the reason on that one.

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