As there are so many posts about this topic and it’s getting a bit out of hand, I’ll create one central place where we can talk about this stuff and share updates....
I think I’ll open a pinned thread about this now as there exist so many posts about this with news and it’s getting a bit out of hand. I’m sorry but can you repost this there as a comment?
Honestly, the whole way EBU handled this all is just a mess. Being completely intransparent while allowing tons of different rumors to emerge, delaying a countdown that implies a statement “for two hours” and then longer indefinitely, and now still not openly sharing the facts and just talking about inappropriate behaviour. I don’t think you can reasonably condemn or support Joost just because we really don’t know what happened or even if he did something (innocent until proven guilty I guess).
I know that in an ongoing investigation you can’t directly share everything you know and that you might want to take some time to research without it going public, but they still could have dealt with this better… either just letting him perform in the rehearsal to prevent it from going public and rumors spreading or sharing more about what they know and announcing when they will make an official statement.
I’m just… so sorry for him. I’d be sorry for basically any artist I think, but I think most for him. Because the song is so personal and a tribute to his father, and that he’s so proud to have made it on the Eurovision stage for them… This is just really tragic. :(
Yeah, it kind of is. But I thought it’s a major update and many people don’t click on posts (or even refresh them later) but just see the titles and headlines and I thought it makes sense to still reach them with this update. But I agree that this is a grey area; I could have also made it a comment.
Ohh yeah, true…
(Although of course that’s rather speculative. @Vivarevo, do you know where these rumors come from?)
Every ESC has its drama but honestly this year really feels like another level with things like this ://
Up until a years ago I was of the opinion “There’s no political voting, UK 2022 and Germany 2018 were super popular so it’s possible”. But honestly, after last year I think it’s possible, but some countries still have a disadvantage and they need to produce an absolutely amazing song to get a great result, but only a good song won’t get them the points a different country would get. Only my personal opinion though.
I really hope this isn’t the case :/ Especially for him with his special bond to Eurovision and the song with his parents :///
And of course also because I really liked his song and it’s in my top 3 :(
I think it will be resolved shortly, definitely after the contest. Even in the past where the EBU has been intransparent (e.g. with the invalidated corrupt jury votes), it got pretty clear afterwards what happened. But I guess we’ll see.
Joost Klein Thread | AVROTROS releases statement
As there are so many posts about this topic and it’s getting a bit out of hand, I’ll create one central place where we can talk about this stuff and share updates....
Statement AVROTROS regarding disqualification of Joost Klein (www.avrotros.nl)
Just now, AVROTROS has released a statement about what happened on Thursday night with Joost Klein:...
Joost Klein from the Netherlands disqualified from Eurovision 2024 (eurovisionworld.com)
STATEMENT FROM THE EBU...
BBC News - Eurovision Song Contest: Dutch contestant Joost Klein disqualified (www.bbc.co.uk)
Belgium apparently paused the semifinal broadcast to condemn Israels attacks on Palestine (lemmy.world)
Joost Klein disqualified - official statement from EBU (eurovision.tv)
Joost Klein will not perform in the Jury Show (nltimes.nl)
According to several news outlets, Joost Klein will not perform in the Jury show of the ESC for the Netherlands....
Eurovision: Joost Klein misses Dutch rehearsal after 'incident' (www.bbc.com)
The Netherlands' entry Joost Klein not rehearsing 'until further notice' over 'incident' (news.sky.com)