Lionir

@Lionir@beehaw.org

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Lionir,

Yeah… seems like a baserow bug. It renders fine on Firefox mobile. Not sure if it’d work in Desktop mode in Chromium browsers - worth a try for those with this issue.

Lionir,

My personal opinion on this is that we should probably take an allowlist approach to federation to be able to be more proactive about instances that could be threats for Beehaw.

I think we’ve managed to keep our culture to some degree through stronger moderation when it comes to out-of-instance users and making use of defederations.

That said, I wish we had more flexible federation options, such as for example, letting our users interact with certain instances without letting people from those instances interact in ours.

Lionir,

It would be possible to keep up with Lemmy’s API changes though it would certainly help if Lemmy’s API was actually versioned.

Lionir,

We could, that was something I had personally looked at but it is quite a bit of effort for nothing if there is no big split.

Lionir,

Do keep in mind that 11.6% of people chose to not answer that question so this 75% is not a very accurate metric. Not only that but ~35% of people declared to not come from the United States. I will also mention that our goal is not to reach an average that is close to a country’s demographics - we expect a bigger than average amount of people to be from a minorised group.

Lionir,

The DMA (Digital Markets Act) has clauses that force big companies that are considered “gatekeepers” to allow interoperability with other services.

Lionir,

They can, if they read the manual. Mods can’t, but instance admins can.

Yes. If you use arcane commands using the docs that are in a pull request that is not yet merged. This is not accessible to many instance admins and it is only “technically supported” which is the worst kind of support from my point of view.

Lionir,

It’s a basic curl command, that shouldn’t be “arcane” if you’re setting up a server.

This is the equivalent of saying that any instance admin needs to know how to use curl while most people have never used a commandline. Not only that but you need machine access to know the api key which I would wager instance admins do not necessarily have.

I think this is the result of not prioritising work that makes moderation possible by non-technically inclined people and it is genuinely a failure of the system.

The priorities of development on Lemmy are decided by developers and the people who are not are simply pushed away. Most community leaders and moderators are not developers. The mental gymnastics to justify this lack of tooling is tiring.

Lionir,

Images aren’t federated through ActivityPub so I don’t really see how deleting media is supposed to work.

Yes, they are. Every instance downloads everyone’s images for a “cached” version that is currently never used. This is what makes this problem especially insidious and straight up dangerous in cases like CSAM.

Lionir,

It should be noted that I am just a man who does not use these bathrooms but I have some thoughts. My first impressions were from a queer perspective.

We have a pretty similar setup at school. It certainly doesn’t feel great to me. It always felt like a shortcut used by administration to answer the ‘inclusive bathroom issue’. It creates a weird fear in my mind of using one while I could be using another but instead I’d be blocking someone who needs the special infrastructure in the toilet. One of them has also repeatedly been locked by the administration because “people have sex in them” which just irks me so much. They would never close any other bathrooms if that happened in them - which it most certainly does.

Okay, that became a rant but um, these are my thoughts.

Lionir,

Yeah, it’s just a room with toilet and sink that can be locked from the inside.

Has Discourse been considered as a Lemmy alternative? (discourse.org)

I remember watching this project as it was getting started. It was a replacement to all those PHP forums, like PHPBB & Simple Machines BB. This claimed to have more modern features. It’s also open-source, and you can self-host or pay them for hosting. (I recommend the latter)...

Lionir,

The ActivityPub plugin is very early and has many quirks at the moment. Can’t edit, weird text limit things and I believe it is just a one-way federation?

Lionir,

I did not know about this Piefed feature, that’s really cool!

Lionir,

Hope to see you more, silly bean!

Lionir,

In what way are those better? Don’t they still suffer from the privacy problems that come with federation?

Yes, the issue is that Lemmy does not even attempt to allow you to delete the image. There is no control for the user to do this. It’s literally not possible.

Lionir,

How do I put this? If this is how you respond to criticism, and that’s what you’ve clearly shown repeatedly to do, then you should not be in any leadership position.

You do not apologize even when you admit to be wrong, you blame others instead of taking responsibilities for anything that was said here. It’s entirely a dismissive response. You might not have noticed but people do not feel valued at all when they speak to Lemmy’s developers. Their input is dismissed, they are told to make issues that you do not care for and when they ask for something to be better prioritized, you effectively tell them to fuck off. You make people feel that their time and effort towards Lemmy is worthless.

With the way you’ve acted, you have pushed back people from making issues, from contributing in code or otherwise, from wanting to host Lemmy and wanting to be associated with the project. Sincerely, all I can hope at this point is for Lemmy to be forked by better people or to be forgotten about.

Lionir,

To put so much demands on so few people, entitled to their free labor while contributing nothing back, is a terrible thing to do to a person.

I don’t know how you managed to do this in one thread but I’ll leave these two contradictions here:

  • Lemmy devs claim to both “work full time” on the project because of donations and NLNet grants so sublinks could never reach parity in a reasonable timeframe
  • Lemmy devs claim that Lemmy is all a labour of love and that asking for a change in leadership and priorities is just “entitled”

Like, I’m not going to deny that entitlement in open source is a thing - it is a thing and it is awful.

However, people are giving you their time, effort and money - you keep dismissing that and doubling down on erasing this work.

I mean, unless you want to tell me how I’m acting entitled to your work despite spending countless hours trying to support my community, spending hours sorting through issues that Lemmy has to label them, spending countless hours advocating for people to make issues and for change in the Lemmy project.

And after all that, trying to have any input on prioritising moderation was met with : (paraphrasing) “I will not change my priorities”, “I think you’re exagerating moderation issues, they work fine” and plain out refusing to acknowledge lolicon pornography as CSAM, refusing to acknowledge my request to put moderators in Lemmy’s matrix channels despite obvious problems during weekend.

Seriously, I kinda expected better from you. I have no trust in Lemmy’s leadership and your response here just examplifies that.

Lionir,

But are my priorities not my own? Why is this such an affront that I choose what I think is important? Would you like it if I did the same to you, demanded that you change your priorities to do what I want you to do? What if there are thousands of other people asking you the same thing?

When you accept donations and grants for Lemmy’s development and when you work with other people, I think it is normal and good to think about priorities in a more collaborative fashion. I cannot write rust code and many other people cannot do that. When their issues are left ignored, dismissed and repeatedly told that they have no input towards Lemmy’s direction - people tend to not want to work with you because they feel that their work is pointless.

Why make an issue if developers admit to not reading them and not changing priorities? Why help towards a collective goal if everyone is just working on their own personal thing? As someone who is not good at writing code - it just feels like shit. My work felt entirely pointless because there was no way for my effort to amount to anything I wanted. Only people who can write code can actually influence the Lemmy project.

I understand feeling burned out but I tried contributing, I tried making things better and all I was met with was “I will not change my priorities” or “I do not think it is valuable to try to bring direction in the Lemmy project” or straight up dismissal or silence. If what you wanted all this time was for you to work on your own thing with no outside input, well, all I can say is you’ve done good work to make that happen.

I don’t think there’s anything left for me to tell you.

Lionir,

I think this is a pretty clear example of what I mean when I say that my work was never valued.

I did do work that was non-code - I labeled tons of issues, closed duplicates and those which had already been fixed.

I did try to write code contributions (here and here). One of which was rejected based on purely aesthetic preferences and whose follow-up PR was made dormant forever afterwards.

I tried to help and contribute in the ways I could - apparently this work is just “negativity and complaints”.

Lionir,

Community managers - sometimes just talking about your issue with someone will help tremendously in figuring out how to put it and they often can just do it for you. That said, Lemmy devs do not value work being put in the issue tracker - they have admitted to not reading it. People who cannot contribute code are just entirely ignored and have no power in the project’s direction.

Lionir,

It’s like this on beehaw as well!

Lionir,

The codebase is remarkably not fun to work with according to everyone I’ve talked to. The language (rust) is also not common for web services so many have no experience with it. These things made people want to start from scratch.

Lionir,

If you can point me to any comments like these, I’d love to remove them fwiw.

Lionir,

I mean, I essentially proposed to do this myself in private conversations with Dessalines but there was no willingness for a shared roadmap so it felt pretty pointless.

Lionir,

Bad faith or not - Fascists are not accepted.

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