PugJesus

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PugJesus,

Crazy trump overturned Roe vs Wade when he wasn’t even the president…

Wow, I’m just… gonna sit here and appreciate this for a moment. Jesus.

PugJesus,

My favorite is “THIS ISN’T REAL DEMOCRACY”, as though most Americans are in favor of defunding Israel.

It would be great if they were. But by and large they are not.

PugJesus,

The chances of that are about the same as Israel offering reasonable peace conditions of their own accord.

We deal with the world we have, not the world we want.

PugJesus,

Would the wording ‘acceleration of genocide’ be more acceptable?

PugJesus,

… you think this is full speed?

Jesus Christ.

PugJesus, (edited )

so random Europeans who converted to Judaism a couple years ago can seize it.

Fucking what

EDIT: Love that I’m getting downvoted for being appalled by the “They aren’t REAL Jews” rhetoric here. Stay classy. Maybe if you embrace enough antisemitism, you’ll stop the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people.

PugJesus,

And you think those are just random Europeans who converted to Judaism to seize Israel for the lulz? Because that’s quite clearly the assertion that I quoted and am disputing.

Fuck, man, I think the creation of Israel was a mistake, but “They aren’t real Jews!” is going into some Black Israelites shit.

Israel is a European colonial project, there were already people living in the area before Israel was created in 1940s.

Zionism predates the creation of Israel. The creation of Israel was recognition of a de facto state of affairs that had developed out of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire which resulted in large numbers of Jews fleeing traditionally-antisemitic Europe (as Nazi Germany would soon prove was a life-saving choice), and later of Jews fleeing a rising wave of nationalist antisemitism in Arab states.

PugJesus,

No one said anything about “real Jews”, we’re talking about Israelis who are at most a single generation away from being European, many of the older generation were born in Europe regardless of religion.

Jesus Christ.

First, please look into the demographics of Israeli Jews.

Second, “At most a single generation”? Jesus fucking Christ, are you being serious?

So yes, Israelis are European colonists who displaced the people who lived on that land for many generations before any of them showed up.

I feel like we could get into a long argument here about the history of the region, but I think all of that is secondary to the fact that none of that has anything to do with Europeans converting to Judaism to steal Palestinian land. Jews from Europe, fleeing persecution, came to Palestine, where there was already a sizable Jewish minority.

Nothing you’ve described entitles European colonists to the land in Israel. They are there now, Israel isn’t going anywhere, but that does not excuse the ongoing genocide of the people who lived there already and have a much more substantiated claim to the land.

When the fuck have I excused the ongoing genocide?

Here, let me help you out by requoting literally everything I said before you objected to me:

so random Europeans who converted to Judaism a couple years ago can seize it.

Fucking what

PugJesus,

It’s such a predictable progression. It would be hilariously pathetic if tens of thousands of people weren’t dead because of it. Instead, it’s just disgustingly pathetic.

PugJesus,

The development of the Protestant Work Ethic was a disaster for the human race

PugJesus,

I’ve been seeing lots of “THE US IS A PARIAH STATE FOR SEIZING RUSSIAN ASSETS” ads on Facebook lately.

Looks like Russia has decided it’s time to activate all the useful idiots by prodding their one working neuron with cheap propaganda.

PugJesus,

Mostly I use it to keep in contact with some friends and family. My doomscrolling I mostly do on here, but every once in a while I see something horrifying on FB.

PugJesus,

UNKNOWN TECHNOLOGY! [crush]

PugJesus,

The Russians captured a knocked-out Leo cowardlily abandoned by its Ukrainian crew, who refused to splatter all over the crew compartment like Russian MEN. In celebration of this astounding victory, they took it back to Russia as a trophy, and demonstrated their superiority over Westoid ‘technology’ by bending the barrel with a big weight. Take that!

PugJesus,

Well, it didn’t say that he WILLINGLY turned into a genocidal dictator

PugJesus,

Rome used subsidized grain (including a list of households, typically middle class, who received free bread, the sale of grain to others at below-market-price, and offering subsidies and rewards for bakers who sold bread below a certain price) for the massive population of the city of Rome itself, and a certain number of seats to the games were given out for free each day (complete with people camping out early to get them before they ran out).

PugJesus,

The UK (and US - in that order) were directly responsible for the overthrow of Mossadegh’s government and the resulting ~25 years of repression by the Shah, but while the resulting fall of the Shah was inevitable, the Islamic Revolution was not. It came on a knife’s edge.

PugJesus,

No they’re left wing compared to their government so they won’t get us assistance.

It’s more that, when the US isn’t directly funding regime overthrows, we tend to take a “We’ll come in with FULL support at the very last moment when we’re certain who’s going to win, so we can curry favor with expense but no risk.”

PugJesus,

Yeah. The US is fucking terrible in many respects for a ‘modern’ country, but the current Iranian government outright prides itself on being reactionary.

PugJesus,

Unfortunately unsurprising. Many such stories emerged, though many unconfirmed, at the time. The Iranian security forces were terrified that they might have to answer for their crimes to an angry populace, and so became more wretched and cruel than usual.

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