What kind of hypocritical bullshit is this? How about stop helping Isreal so they don’t become refugees in the first place. Pick a fucking lane. You either don’t care about Palestinians or you do. You don’t get to play both sides.
Soon after the Oct. 7 attacks by Hamas and the start of Israel’s offensive in Gaza, leading Republicans, including presidential candidates, said the U.S. should not welcome Palestinian refugees, claiming that they are antisemitic and potential national security risks.
They really just eat up any racist stereotypes they’re given
This is not righting a wrong if he’s still giving Israel money. This is like paying for a bandaid because the guy you keep giving a bunch of knives to is stabbing people. It’s a small damage control move when he himself is funding the damage in the first place.
It's capacity isn't enough. Not by a long shot. It can pass through 150 truckloads per day. Gaza needs 200 daily in peace time, when they can farm and otherwise provide for themselves. And...
There's an IDF checkpoint between it and the people who need aid. It's literally no different than the trucks waiting at the Israeli crossings.
So many have crossed that water. If you are American, there is someone in your linage that uprooted themselves and took that chance. And they’re still standing in line.
Sometimes it isn’t about votes. Sometimes it’s doing what is right.
Doing what’s right is using the US’ leverage to stop the killing, not accepting ‘some refugees’. In fact, Netanyahu would love nothing more than to have everyone from the Gaza strip move elsewhere.
It pretty much is. And even if it wasn’t, cutting off military aid to a regime committing war crimes is both the moral and legal thing to do. Biden is literally breaking US law to keep sending weapons to Israel.
They could, and I know this sounds crazy, stop funding a genocide and human right violations. But it’s america, and we all know their history… Except a lot of americans it seems.
All they have to do is leave the area their ancestors have lived in for thousands of years so random Europeans who converted to Judaism a couple years ago can seize it.
Uh... Who do you think the Muslims descend from? It's Jews (and Christians) who converted to Islam. They've been there for the same amount of time because they're the same people.
And there are Israelis here too… I know a couple that escaped after being forced into the IDF.
Where did the word Judah come from and where is it?
By your logic every human alive has a claim to Africa and can go there and genocide their incredibly distant cousins because Africa is rightfully theirs…
You’re talking about stuff from thousands of years ago. Israel the country has existed for less time than the current US president has been alive. Who cares about a different ancient kingdom?
The UN created Isreal as well as Palestine. Yes, there were Arabs in the area all along. The jews were there 3,000 years ago but were forced off by the Romans. TheBrits simply held the territory after WWII.
Should the royal family of England also return England to it’s natives?
Should they return America to the Native Americans?
They didn’t seem to agree with the Irish when they wanted to kick the English out of Ireland.
Why stop at 3,000 years ago?
Why not return it to the descendants of the first hominids that set foot there? Modern Asians had to cross thru first to get to Asia, and some went all the way to the Americas.
Should we give Native Americans Israel and call it a day? Sure, they left, but by your logic that doesn’t matter
Palestine has existed uninterrupted for thousands of years…
It was where Abraham first started hearing voices in his head commanding him to kill his family which launched Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
Israel was created less than a century ago and it’s borders have only expanded. And they argue that they’re “the real Palestinians” and claim Palestine’s history as their own.
None of that makes logical sense, but it’s easy to see what they’re trying to do.
Wow. So let me guess, you think every Israeli should vacate the middle east right? Even people who were born there, creating the same issue all over again. And let me guess, you don’t want the Arab or Muslim Israelis to leave right? Just “certain” ones
Great comment. The problem here isn’t Israel or Judaism, it’s Zionism, which is fundamentally opposed to peace with non-followers. There’s a world where Israel can exist as some sort of territory and where Jews and Muslims can exist in that space together, but that will never happen as long as Zionism remains the dominant policy of the State of Israel. It’s literally lebensraum in the 21st century.
so random Europeans who converted to Judaism a couple years ago can seize it.
Fucking what
EDIT: Love that I’m getting downvoted for being appalled by the “They aren’t REAL Jews” rhetoric here. Stay classy. Maybe if you embrace enough antisemitism, you’ll stop the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people.
This person thinks that because the Jews who emigrated to Israel after the Holocaust were from Europe, their grandchildren who were born in Israel are somehow not deserving of living where they were born and should “go back where they came from”. It’s the same old dog whistle
You understand that there are literal former American citizens living in the occupied territories, right? Like, when you hear about settlers in kibbutzs a lot of them are former Americans and Europeans.
Israel is a European colonial project, there were already people living in the area before Israel was created in 1940s.
And you think those are just random Europeans who converted to Judaism to seize Israel for the lulz? Because that’s quite clearly the assertion that I quoted and am disputing.
Fuck, man, I think the creation of Israel was a mistake, but “They aren’t real Jews!” is going into some Black Israelites shit.
Israel is a European colonial project, there were already people living in the area before Israel was created in 1940s.
Zionism predates the creation of Israel. The creation of Israel was recognition of a de facto state of affairs that had developed out of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire which resulted in large numbers of Jews fleeing traditionally-antisemitic Europe (as Nazi Germany would soon prove was a life-saving choice), and later of Jews fleeing a rising wave of nationalist antisemitism in Arab states.
No one said anything about “real Jews”, we’re talking about Israelis, who are at most a single generation away from being European, many of the older generation were born in Europe regardless of religion.
So yes, Israelis are European colonists who displaced the people who lived on that land for many generations before any of them showed up.
Zionism predates the creation of Israel.
Yup, created in Europe late 18th century.
Nothing you’ve described entitles European colonists to the land in Israel. They are there now, Israel isn’t going anywhere, but that does not excuse the ongoing genocide of the people who lived there already and have a much more substantiated claim to the land.
No one said anything about “real Jews”, we’re talking about Israelis who are at most a single generation away from being European, many of the older generation were born in Europe regardless of religion.
Jesus Christ.
First, please look into the demographics of Israeli Jews.
Second, “At most a single generation”? Jesus fucking Christ, are you being serious?
So yes, Israelis are European colonists who displaced the people who lived on that land for many generations before any of them showed up.
I feel like we could get into a long argument here about the history of the region, but I think all of that is secondary to the fact that none of that has anything to do with Europeans converting to Judaism to steal Palestinian land. Jews from Europe, fleeing persecution, came to Palestine, where there was already a sizable Jewish minority.
Nothing you’ve described entitles European colonists to the land in Israel. They are there now, Israel isn’t going anywhere, but that does not excuse the ongoing genocide of the people who lived there already and have a much more substantiated claim to the land.
When the fuck have I excused the ongoing genocide?
Here, let me help you out by requoting literally everything I said before you objected to me:
so random Europeans who converted to Judaism a couple years ago can seize it.
There's this notion that modern Israelis are essentially just Europeans who invaded after WWII, which is simply not true.
While the Zionist movement largely did originate in Europe in the late 1800s, the majority of Israeli citizens today are not of European ancestry / Ashkenazi. The majority are what's called Mizrahi, coming from Middle Eastern Jewish communities that were forcibly expelled from Arab countries during the 50s and 60s. For instance, Ben Gvir, the current Minister of Defense (and to be clear, a complete little shit), is from an Iraqi family. In 1948, there were roughly 150,000 Jews in Iraq, making up nearly 40% of the population of Baghdad. Today, there are estimated to be less than five. Likewise, in Yemen, there were roughly 50,000 Jews, maintaining a presence that goes back well over 2500 years. Today, there may be one single Jew left in the country. The same situation happened all throughout the Arab world. The departing Jews generally had to flee their homes without any significant belongings, since their property was often confiscated. In Syria, for instance, a 1964 decree prevented Jews from traveling more than 3 miles from their homes, banned them from owning land, banned them from working in the government or in banks, banned them from leaving anything as inheritance - which would instead be seized by the state.
Can I just reflect on how expelling Jews from Arab countries was (aside from being an atrocity and arguably genocide of course) the single most idiotic decision in the history of the conflict? Maybe surpassed by Arafat refusing Sadat's offer to support a two state solution in 1979, but that's it.
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