I don’t think so. They providing GNU/Linux phone and invest money into mobile development for Linux. I would not recommend buying their Librem (better buy PinePhone Pro instead if you want GNU/Linux), but they definitely not a scam company.
Strongly disagree. All things you mentioned are software issues. And they providing a phone with a bad specs intentionally. Because no one will buy an expensive GNU/Linux phone. We simply do not have software. The idea is to provide relatively cheap hardware, so developers can start working on it. And another reason was to provide hardware that have some GNU/Linux support already to avoid asking community to start from scratch. Very few phones can run GNU/Linux because of lack of drivers.
And yes, the keyboard is bad hardware-wise, I not satisfied with it either. But Pine did a lot for GNU/Linux on phones. Enthusiasts started writing software seriously only after PinePhone appearance.
Sure, there are drawbacks, but I think it worth it. It not only fixes the battery life, but also provides hardware typing which is important because we don’t have swipe-typing.
I wouldn’t call PPP expensive. It’s a just more powerful version of PP for those developers (yes, for developers, it’s written in bold on their website) who want a more powerful unit. Yes, you can buy a more powerful phone for this price, but it’s not because Pine64 greed. They simply doesn’t have as big production capacity as other rich companies. The more phones you produce, the cheaper price for unit, this is how it works.
low built quality
PP(P) have okay build quality. I have complains only about keyboard.
subsequent low number of developers trying to improve the software side
It’s a community project, Pine does not develop the software at all. They only providing hardware and relies on community to build software for it. It’s kinda unique business model, but it’s the only way to make GNU/Linux phones popular. They are not Google, they can’t invest billions of dollars to develop the software. Thanks to Pine64, developers (including me) can port and write their software for Linux on phones. I have both phones and I see how much the situation has improved. We are still far from Android, but it makes me happy to see progress in this direction.
I am well aware, but the PPP included some expensive “premium” features like licensed gorrilla glas and so on, which do nothing for the developer experience
It’s great when developers daily drive what they write since it’s a community project and there is no quality control. I personally was happy when PPP was announced and bought it because I couldn’t daily drive PP, the hardware is too outdated for me. I honestly would prefer even RK3566, its more powerful and less hungry. But users can still can buy PP.
Compared to the original PinePhone the developer uptake of the PPP has been really slow
PP is around since 2020. And it was in a similar state. Also initial GNU/Linux support were different. Especially camera.
And I also made a mistake in my first comment. I wanted to write that all issues are software issues. I’m so sorry.
Oh, I’m so sorry, I wanted to write “software”. Edited. For example, charging when the phone is dead will be fixed soon with proper bootloader, megi already submitted patches to u-boot. It will also reduce power consumption in suspend.
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I’m using Sailfish OS and due to the Android compatibility layer I can use it as my daily driver (with only occasional needs for my spare Android phone), but I was wondering if there’s something better in that regard?
You previously mentioned China. And China do have big companies like NetEase. Are such companies under a mix of public and cooperative ownershiprs? How it differs from IKEA? Not arguing, just trying to understand.
I’m learning the material and I have a few questions.
You say that in China the capitalists do not run the government. But how do you know that they do not have their own business or are not affiliated with the capitalists? For example, in my country there is a law that does not allow deputies and the president to have their own business. But it does not work, these people simply register the business for other persons and, in fact, continue to own the business.
How China got out of poverty is amazing. But I also heard that the workers were very heavily exploited. This is one of the reasons why the US moved production there. And even now, workers in China are paid little despite the fact that the country is rich. How can this happen in a socialist country that should protect the interests of the workers?
As for the Nordic model, you said that it is not exactly socialism: it is capitalism, but with tough rules for business and good social programs. So they more centric then leftists really. And I don’t argue with that. But I don’t understand why if the capitalists run the country, they simply won’t loosen laws to make business easier and reduce social programs? How has this system not collapsed yet?
Sorry if some of the questions seem stupid, I’m just trying to how this all works.
A helping Arm for Panfrost (www.collabora.com)
Good news for Linux on mobile. Especially Vulkan support.
Are there USB testers with open source firmware?
I recently discovered AVHzY CT3 and I liked it. But looks like the firmware is proprietary. Do you know any testers with open firmware?
This handheld looks so weird (liliputing.com)
Linux phones
Anyone use one of those Linux phones like pine phone or librem....
Fairphone 3 gets 7 years of updates, besting every other Android OEM (arstechnica.com)
Thoughts?
Three Years of Weekly Updates on GNU-like Mobile Linux: Let's summarize and celebrate! (linmob.net)
I figured this might be worth sharing :)
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Super Tilt Bro. for NES (sgadrat.itch.io)
Today discovered this awesome game and wanted to share.
Simpsons Hit & Run 2003 Source Code (github.com)
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What do you all use? And can you use your phone as a daily driver?
I’m using Sailfish OS and due to the Android compatibility layer I can use it as my daily driver (with only occasional needs for my spare Android phone), but I was wondering if there’s something better in that regard?
We can all agree on that, right? (lemmy.world)