No it’s real simple, you lot act like these big tech companies are evil personified but happily look the other way or hand out whataboutism like candy when it is some group, institution or ideology you support doing the same or even more fucked up shit.
That’s literally like saying Victorinox helps support crime because people who commit crime sometimes use knives.
You are literally washing over the fact that this atrocity was fuelled and perpetrated by religious fanatics and corrupted governments.
Literally the only part which speaks about Facebook is that “social media may have helped spread the violent message” and that Facebook refused to share user data with investigators. Which without a warrant is standard practice.
You are doing the equivalent of putting pictures on a board and drawing strings between them.
Meta threads will open federation to the fediverse soon, and while this is mainly to mastodon it will still affect lemmy. They are acting like they won’t be evil, but let’s be real this is Facebook when have they ever done that....
This elitism bandwagoning hurts the goal of providing alternatives to closed source proprietary platforms for social media.
If you want an open and viable alternative to proprietary platforms running social media then you must have a willingness to include those who want to be part of said platforms.
It’s only the biggest influence on specific instances, if the people in those instances engage with them.
The key difference is if you defederate just because “big is bad” ideology then the whole premise of federated services becomes irrelevant, because as soon as any instance gets too big it will be defederated.
No you are actually missing the point. If you are on lemmy.your.opinion, then Facebook is not going to be the most prevalent voice unless the rest of the people on your opinion instance support the posts coming from Facebook.
That’s why when you log into your instance, you mainly see feeds from your Instance. You cannot “game” an algorithm you don’t control.
Your fear comes from the influence the mainstream social media platforms weld. And they weld it because of their homogeneous control over their platforms.
The more you try to exclude them the easier it is for them to exclude the smaller players.
You exclude Facebook, then Google, then Microsoft, then Twitter. Then they all band together to push out the rest of us and then you lose another open protocol to absorption or subversion.
I’ll call it now, this is how it will go down. Just like all the other open protocols I’ve seen over the last 25 years… Technically savvy people push back on general adoption because we are generally snobs and elitists.
Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse....
So you want an alternative to large closed source proprietary platforms, but don’t want to allow anyone who doesn’t use it via a “preapproved” list of providers?
If I name instances in the ML sphere posting clearly anti western propaganda, hate speech and the questionable impartiality of rule enforcement in the fediverse, are you going to cry foul?
Oh for fuck sake, can you to stop with the “what about XMPP” bullshit please?
The fucking protocol still exists. And none of you bandwagoning twats use it. But you constantly talk about it like it was stolen from you. In reality you don’t know what it is and use it as a strawman for your arguments.
Right now, download any number of XMPP clients and start using the protocol.
You don’t because you are part of the “big is bad” elitism trope. Just a bunch of pathetic wannabe underground elitist.
4chan in the early days was just trolls wanting to piss people off. Apart from the occasional post that was truely fucked up, which the community generally made sure the authorities found out who made it.
The current landscape is a bunch of people all wanting to circle jerk themselves to feel virtuous.
The world is just a fucking pathetic eco-chamber now. And I’m a flirty whore for engaging in it.
Or maybe, out of the 3 Billion active users on Facebook each month, you, and many others, are focused on fucked up shit. Because, shock and horror, everyone is gripped by the propaganda of the group. Welcome to being part of a biological social species.
Just for a moment consider the following. Facebook priorities posts that get engagement, they don’t care about morality and fairness and they won’t stop untill it is illegal to do so.
I don’t absolve them of their responsibility, but you attributed malicious intent when stupidity and profit is only needed.
No, you literally said that Facebook is evil, because you said, with grammatically corrections “Facebook is against freedom”. And don’t try to argue that this is a difference or semantic.
Facebook doesn’t give a shit about your ideology, it only wants likes because that improves its influence. Be that capitalism’s influence or socialists influence.
This shit will continue to happen until Americans accept that democracy comes with at least a basic level of responsibility. That being mandatory voting.
Oh fucking boho. A politician gets burnt because they no longer have the backing of the party, then when they can’t manipulate the public to back them, they announce their resignation while giving only crocodile tears and claiming their reasons are for a need of personal time.
No no, They are against imperialism. Your example isn’t valid because that’s not imperialism, that’s just spreading the socialist revolution, which requires military “support” because it is the only way to remove the imperialist and decolonise a nation.
No no, stationing the socialist revolutionary guard in said country isn’t imperialism because it’s under the flag of socialism, don’t you see the difference?
Brought to you by the cognitive dissonance of Marxist.
Don’t bother to try and debate the nuance of the geopolitical landscape with a bunch of neo-marxists who have gorged themselves on the “west is bad” coolaid.
It’s as pointless as arguing with neo-capitalists as to why regulation is both not the glove of communism, but also required for the healthy workings of a free market.
They are both extremists who only subscribe to a narrow binary view of the world, which fits their respective “ism”.
41% of fediverse instances have blocked threads so far!!! (tech.lgbt)
Please defederate from threads.net
Meta threads will open federation to the fediverse soon, and while this is mainly to mastodon it will still affect lemmy. They are acting like they won’t be evil, but let’s be real this is Facebook when have they ever done that....
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Dear server admins, please defederate threads.net. Dear users, ask your server admin to defederate threads.net. (mstdn.social)
Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse....
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