‘Counterprotesters’ implies they were protesting, how bout you try ‘Zionist thugs’ next time, nyt? And maybe instead of ‘provoked violence’, try out ‘terrorized’ or ‘violently attacked’. Take that out for a spin, give it a whirl
Appreciate you sharing your experience. Unfortunately, the person in my life is so staunchly opposed to getting any kind of care, partially out of stubbornness but mainly because of semi-delusional thoughts (I say “semi-delusional” because it’s no delusion that mental health care in our state is incredibly lacking – but also there’s actual delusional “I’m being targeted” type stuff too). It sucks bc it just feels like we have to wait around for something really bad to happen before they can get the care they very clearly need.
Thanks for that. That clears up a lot of what I wasn’t sure about. I’m curious, from your experience in that job, did you ever feel like certain steps in that process could’ve been different to better help people? Genuinely curious
That’s entirely possible and, yes, I ultimately fully want to respect their autonomy and do not want to commit them against their will. In the past though, they have talked about plans of ending their life and have seriously harmed themself in an attempt. And I can’t really say that there’s anything ‘wrong’ with their life but they do seem very, very miserable. While don’t wish to make a judgement of the quality of their life or insist on how they should be living, I do want them to feel less torment. Its sometimes hard to be sure of the extent of their anguish, because they’re so unwilling to talk about it.
I thoroughly appreciate everyone’s responses. In hindsight, I probably could have put the question in clearer context to avoid sounding like I was just trying to cherry-pick justifications for involuntarily committing someone without the legitimate grounds to do so (and it’s become ever more clear that this is a deeper philosophical question about how much control we should have over a person’s autonomy when they display signs of extreme mental distress). Ultimately, I share the same concerns that many of you have about how this could be misused to hold someone against their will when a third party deems their life isn’t “normal”. There are of course people in our society that would like to use such allowances to involuntarily treat people who are NOT suffering from a mental illness but fit some categorization they deem as “abnormal” -or- treat people who are suffering from a mental illness but are content with their lives (sorry, I’m sure there’s a clearer way to phrase this but I’m struggling how to elucidate it; hopefully this is clear enough).
I was mainly curious to hear of other peoples experiences, what the outcomes have been, how things could be improved, i.e. get a better understanding of how it works, NOT try and use it as a justification. And I hope anyone that reads through this thread takes extreme care and consideration with this stuff, since it is such an extreme course of action to take.
I’m admittedly a bit worried that this post might make people feel targeted themselves or feel unsafe in someway, which was definitely not my intention.
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