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A mix of German politics, European politics and railways #CrossBorderRail. In English and German.

Eine Mischung aus deutscher Politik, europäischer Politik und Eisenbahnen. Auf englisch und auf deutsch.

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matias, to maps

Are there any good software/websites that let you add notes to a map?
I'd like to write down notes of places in China where friends live or I have visited, to help me learn the geography.

#maps #map #openstreetmap

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@richlv @guerda @matias it’s great. Super tool! 🙂

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Welcome to today's thread - South East Europe Day 06 04 Jun 2024 - Arrival of night train, Budapest - Pécs - Beli Manastir - Osijek - Zagreb

Crossing these borders:
Lanžhot 🇨🇿 - Brodské 🇸🇰
Štúrovo 🇸🇰 - Szob 🇭🇺
Beli Manastir 🇭🇷 - Magyarbóly 🇭🇺

These borders on the borders map:
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_935041#8/48.971/18.358

Today's routes on the routes map:
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_935041#8/48.971/18.358

Finally South East Europe! 🎉

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Magyarbóly

So yes the train did end here today. Then it’s a bus across the border… But it’s waiting.

The Bzmot I’ve just been on

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@strathearnrose here pretty much, yes!

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#CrossBorderRail unexpected bus

Magyarbóly - Beli Manastir

This is border 211
Beli Manastir 🇭🇷 - Magyarbóly 🇭🇺

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Road borders around here are few. So the bus has to make a large detour - green line. Red is the train route.

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works here 🙂 No stop and no police at the border

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@jtwcornell91 oh that one tilts. Horrid thing.

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#CrossBorderRail South East Europe 2024 Train 14 of 68
6211
14:25 Beli Manastir - Osijek 14:56
HŽPP

Train type: Macosa 7121 DMU, 2 carriages
⛽️
🚲: ❓(no official space but you could make it work)
🦽: ❓(pretty sure there’s no ramp, although platform is ok)
🛜: ⛔️
🍽️: ⛔️
🧳: 😐 (narrow doors, no space for large luggage)
🧽: 🙂

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6211
14:25 Beli Manastir - Osijek 14:56

Distance: 27.3km
Average speed: 53km/h

4 stops:
Čeminac
Darda
Osijek Dravski Most
Osijek

This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-south-east-europe-v9-draft_1053482#11/45.6594/18.6541

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These Macosa DMUs in Croatia might look ok outside, but they’re grim

The motors are insanely loud

Some have air con - a little less loud, but the air is very bad. This one doesn’t - air is better, but noise is deafening

Pro tip: the very front is the quietest there is. Still not great, but passable!

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Overall though the infra here is better than I’d expected - on the whole Pécs - Beli Manastir - Osijek route

Replace the Macosa DMU with something better and run some fewer stops InterRegio trains and this would be pretty good

The reason I had a bus was some engineering works - so totally legitimate

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Osijek

Croatia’s 4th city

And nothing happening at its station!

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Ah. My train is a… bus

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@diningcar I’m back in a week!

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So that was an effing mess

Typical HŽPP

I went towards what I thought was my train (the only train there was) and asked. It wasn’t my train because my train was replaced by a bus between Osijek and Đurđenovac

And then the HŽPP guy got annoyed by my Interrail pass in a bus so cramped my knees are crushed in

Another passenger told me the reason: “emergency track maintenance” 🤷‍♂️

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And really the zeal with which this HŽPP guy is checking tickets on this bus is quite something.

Generally when DB runs a Schienenersatzverkehr bus they don’t check tickets, a sort of “we know this is inconvenient, we’ll leave you in peace”. But not here.

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A train! And it’ll run! 🤯

And I even have a half cold

Đurđenovac station
A Osječko on board the train

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Personen im Gleis! ‼️

Ah no. It’s Croatia. It’s normal…

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#CrossBorderRail South East Europe 2024 Train 15 of 68
780
17:47 Đurđenovac - Zagreb Glavni kolodvor 22:10
HŽPP

Train type: Končar 7023 DMU, 3 carriages
⛽️
🚲: ✅
🦽: ✅ (if platform allows)
🛜: ✅
🍽️: ⛔️
🧳: 😍 (the most amazing overhead racks - a Birdy fits on there!)
🧽: 🙂

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17:47 Đurđenovac - Zagreb Glavni kolodvor 22:10

Distance: roughly c. 210km
Average speed: c. 47km/h

18 stops:
Zdenci-Orahovica
Čačinci
Slatina
Cabuna
Suhopolje
Virovitica
Virovitica Grad
Špišić-Bukovica
Vukosavljevica
Pitomača
Kloštar
Đurđevac
Virje
Koprivnica
Križevci
Vrbovec
Dugo Selo
Zagreb Glavni Kol.

This train, mapped from Osijek the original route: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-south-east-europe-v9-draft_1053482#9/45.8259/17.3364

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@julienw Northern Irish Rail is among the most obsessive about ticket checks I’ve ever seen. The Brits are quite extreme but Northern Ireland one level more

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Zdenci-Orahovica

One passenger alights. An elderly gentleman sits on a bench and observes. And on we go

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Čačinci

A more modern building. Next to a massive silo. This was once more important than today. 2 get on, 1 off

The silo

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This Končar built DMU (built 2019) has two roof mounted diesel engines. But the part where all the seats are is below these engines. The middle car without engine is the PRM toilet and multi use area…

The noise level is ok, but I have been in better

https://www.railwaygazette.com/traction-and-rolling-stock/konar-kev-dmu-enters-service/42090.article

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@kupfers @tml and meanwhile campaign for better trains 🙂

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