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kernellogger, to random
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iperf 2.2.0 is out:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/dad9030c7a57d93220503ef4411af89b@rjmcmahon.com/

"'Lots of features & bug fixes and hopefully on a few regressions. Big focus around latency and buffer depths, .e.g support for inflight on the client and in progress (per Little's Law) on the server.'"

kernellogger, to linux
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#Linux #kernel 6.8.5, 6.6.26, 6.1.85, and 5.15.154 were released.

They among others contain the mitigations for the "native BHI (Branch History Injection)" hardware vulnerability that were mainlined yesterday[1] shortly after the vulnerability was published[2].

[1] https://fosstodon.org/@kernellogger/112242551490265254

[2] https://www.vusec.net/projects/native-bhi/

kernellogger, (edited )
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2/ TWIMC: sounds like #Linux #kernel 6.8.5 and 6.6.26 do not boot for some (all?) users with

CONFIG_GCC_PLUGIN_STACKLEAK=y

For details, see: https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAMj1kXHgvv0FYZXsFm8KisXuR6t47-nXtgOs0Gyva4MJEJ_4Ow@mail.gmail.com/

[edit: the fix is already queued for the next stable releases]

[edit2: Linux 6.8.6-rc1 and 6.6.27-rc1 with a change that should fix this]

#sigh #LinuxKernel

BlackIkeEagle,

@kernellogger not the first time some of the gcc plugins cause issues I guess? and most distros have none of those enabled I think?

kernellogger, to linux
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"The @KernelCI project is happy to announce the creation of a

Community Engagement Working Group (WG).

[…] connect with [] maintainers, discuss and improve test quality for their subsystems, help onboard new users to the project's systems and services, address their requirements, and act on feedback from existing users, fixing bugs, and implementing new features. As well as following up on regressions detected by KernelCI systems […]"

https://lore.kernel.org/all/bf81be70-61ec-4169-b66a-5c3136869107@gmail.com/, from @spbnick

kernellogger,
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@spbnick 😬

2/ Side note: /me wondered if the "this" in "WG communication will be looped into this maillist." contained a link that was lost in a translation to text mail or if it meant kernelci@lists.linux.dev (I assume the latter)

CC: @KernelCI

kernellogger, (edited ) to linux
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Mitigations for the "native BHI(Branch History Injection)"[1] hardware vulnerability have just been merged into mainline: https://git.kernel.org/torvalds/c/2bb69f5fc72183e1c62547d900f560d0e9334925

"'BHI attacks may allow a malicious application to influence indirect branch prediction in kernel by poisoning the branch history. […]"

[1] for details, see https://www.vusec.net/projects/native-bhi/

kernellogger, to linux
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From @torvalds on :

Hardcoded security module suggestion - stop the stacking insanity

https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAHk-%3Dwh%2B_xXpnHfUv%3DFwGWcce4XwqwKvtq7LcxK6WKmbf4eGGA@mail.gmail.com/

"'[…]this whole "nested LSM" stuff as a design goal just needs to be all rolled back, and the new design target is "one LSM, enabled statically at build time, without the need for indirect calls."

Because we're now in the situation where the security hooks are actually a source of not just horrible performance issues, but also actual insecurity[…]"'

kernellogger,
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@jarkko @torvalds

I often wondered if SELinux would have become way easier to configure and manage quickly long ago, if we early on had deemed it as the the one and only to rule them all (aka the "highlander")

troglobit,

@torvalds @kernellogger @jarkko if tooling like ls could be allowed to break their defaults to let me see why tftpd can’t see the file I just copied from my home to /srv/ftp then sure.

(100% agree though on one to rule them all. So fed up with the current state of things in this domain)

kernellogger, to linux
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Top-posting aka TOFU[1] on lists like ? I have no big problem with that[2]. I even don't mind a HTML mail much.

But I'm having a really really hard time if people use email clients that do not properly quote mails when replying – like Microsoft 365 Outlook apparently does. 😠

A few examples: https://lore.kernel.org/all/AM0PR08MB428921B21B38D517A8A61FC4FB002@AM0PR08MB4289.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com/, https://lore.kernel.org/all/SA1PR12MB6680EAC544D653060504DE83E9352@SA1PR12MB6680.namprd12.prod.outlook.com/, or https://lore.kernel.org/all/SA3PR12MB880243A1F663AB36517374D8F7362@SA3PR12MB8802.namprd12.prod.outlook.com/

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting

[2] unless maybe regular developers do it without a good reason

inguin,

@kernellogger What good would quote marks do when top-posting? Their whole purpose is to allow interleaving different levels of quotes in a discussion.

I'm not saying it's OK to violate the conventions of a community. If Outlook can't quote properly then it's not an adequate client for posting to LKML.

kernellogger,
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@inguin

Valid point, but we have things like Syzbot or Regzbot that react to commands in mails (" foo: bar"…). Such mails will make the bots execute the commands again, unless somebody teaches them to detect such cases automatically – which is hard, unless all such clients (in the long term there might be more) agree on on separator to clearly mark what's new and what's old.

kernellogger, to Nvidia
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Xaver Hugl – Explicit sync

https://zamundaaa.github.io/wayland/2024/04/05/explicit-sync.html

"'"Recently news went around about explicit sync being merged into protocols, and in the wake of that I saw a lot of people having questions about it, and why it was such a big deal… So here’s a short-ish explanation of what it is, why it’s needed and what the benefits are over the old model.

[…]why is it such big news then?

The answer is simple: The proprietary driver doesn’t support implicit sync at all, […]"'"

kernellogger, to linux
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6.9-rc3 is out: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=whDuqyVC6xMkOnNt2EeTd-s4uqa3sYghj5UzkELFW2bpw@mail.gmail.com/

"'"Ok, so this rc3 looks a bit different than the usual ones, because there's a large series to bcachefs to do filesystem repair after corruption. […]

The bcachefs part is a bit over a third of the patch, and if you ignore that part, things look fairly normal, […]

Shortlog appended, please keep testing,

Linus"'"

kernellogger, to linux
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for 2.0.0-1.14 is out https://lore.kernel.org/all/ZhBRSM2j0v7cOLn%2F@oracle.com/

"[…] based on and other tracing features and
is implemented entirely as a userspace application. […]

DTrace for Linux makes use of 2 optional features that are not commonly available in Linux kernels:

  • CTF data generation at compile time […]

  • Module symbol address range data […]

DTrace for Linux can be used for tracing without these patches, albeit with some limitations."'"

kernellogger, to random
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"Man muss einsehen, dass wir - auch alle, die nicht daran beteiligt sein wollen - wirklich die Quellen des Geldes sind, das die Kriminalität finanziert"

https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/weltwirtschaft/autoindustrie-brasilien-leder-100.html

kernellogger, to linux
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Introduction to , from Mohith Thummaluru

https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/introduction-to-netfilter

"'"[…] a subsystem that was introduced in the 2.4 that provides a framework for implementing advanced network functionalities such as packet filtering, network address translation (NAT), and connection tracking. It achieves this by leveraging hooks in the kernel’s network code, which are the locations where kernel code can register functions to be invoked for specific network events. […]"'"

kernellogger, to linux
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I thought the question "do we want to include drivers in the upstream even for hardware used exclusively within a company" had been answered with "yes, that's a good thing, we even encourage that, as everyone benefits" many years ago, but nevertheless it was discussed today again here: https://lore.kernel.org/all/Zg6Q8Re0TlkDkrkr@nanopsycho/

kernellogger, (edited ) to linux
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"Linus Torvalds is just a manager, just check ' commit history, he hardly contributes any changes these days."

There is some truth in statements like that which one bumps into occasionally on the net. Nevertheless they are not drawing an accurate picture at all, as Linus is still heavily involved and every week or two influences development a great deal with insightful and technical contributions or patches.

Here is an example from today: https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAHk-%3DwhHWjKK1TOMT1XvxFj8e-_uctJnXPxM%3DSyWHmW63B_EDw@mail.gmail.com/

stefanct,
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@kernellogger that's what good managers do, actually... it's not a contradiction at all. the problem is that managers on top of so many people have no technical knowledge whatsoever because they also have to deal with stuff that a foss project doesn't directly have to.

kernellogger,
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@stefanct

yeah, I know, I considered covering that in the toot better, but I ran out of space. 🥴

kernellogger, (edited ) to linux
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A #Canonical employee reported some out-of-tree code broke after something internal was renamed recently in #Linux 5.15.y – and as expected was told this is no regression at all, as the #LinuxKernel does not have a binary kernel interface, nor does it have a stable kernel interface:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/924449dc-9b1f-4943-afe3-a68c03aedbb5@canonical.com/

Christoph Hellwig in a reply also wrote: "given that Canonical ignores our #kernel licensing rules and tries to get away with it I'm not going to offer any help to Canonical at all."

feyo,
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@kernellogger Is Christian Hellwig talking about ZFS with the „licensing rules“ or something else?

kernellogger,
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2/ "Given that #Canonical ignores our #kernel licensing rules and tries to get away with it I'm not going to offer any help to Canonical at all."

If you wonder what this statement from esteemed #Linux developer Christoph Hellwig is about:

I'm not 100% sure, but I expect it's either the bundling of #Nvidia's proprietary kernel graphics driver module or the inclusion of the #openZFS #LinuxKernel modules in #Ubuntu - or more likely both.

kernellogger, to linux
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Do you want to know which changes and new features 6.9 will bring when its released on May 12 or 19?

Then check out part 1 and 2 of @LWN's great articles on the 's 6.9 merge window:

https://lwn.net/Articles/965141/

https://lwn.net/Articles/965541/

Both became freely available today; if you like such content, consider subscribing.

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