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Would you use threads if it respected your privacy?

I keep seeing everyone say their privacy is why they aren’t going to use threads. I don’t think that’s entirely true. I think most of us here have a hatred so deep for meta that even if they made the greatest app on earth, we’d still not use it. So, if threads actually respected your privacy would you use it?

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It’s pretty well established that short-form social media piping you content via a biased algo - e.g. Twitter, TikTok and now Threads - is pretty terrible for your mental health. So, no. I exclude Mastodon from that list as there’s no harmful algo.

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I remember after finishing Animal Farm I immediately started planning my world takeover utilising farmyard animals as shock troops.

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Go to your community, and just under the title you’ll see an ‘edit’ icon. Click it and you’re there.

Assuming the web interface, not sure if any apps have moderation tools yet.

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I already know of one admin of a very large Mastodon instance who’s already stated they’re not going to defed and are adopting a ‘wait and see’ approach.

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Github owned by Microsoft you mean? That Github?

Glib reply aside (sorry), in my opinion, any commercially owned entity has one sole reason for its existence - profit. And in the name of pursuing that, they’ll do literally anything to achieve it. I don’t see that as a healthy thing for the fediverse.

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You’re right, we’d certainly have a lot less spam to deal with.

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Sure, I get that. I was thinking of the largely corporate spam that do use large providers protocols to send their email.

It’s SMTP by the way, not SMPT.

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Well, I’m not sure it’s anything as nefarious as that. I don’t think instance admins are hoping for a big payout from Zuck. BUt the fact that that idea exists as a possibility is both saddening and would be an impossibility with the fediverse as it is right now.

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If they respect your unsubscribe request, for sure.

The fact is though, you could block all emails originating from, say, GMail. You could even pre-emptively do it. Those kind of tools don’t really exist across the entirety of the Fediverse on a per-user basis - yet.

But what’s the best way to prevent corporate spam? Don’t use their services. Don’t allow them to access your details.

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Honestly my friend, if I was at all worried about people disagreeing with me I never would’ve got married.

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You might need to re-read my post. I don’t believe I said Threads was going to EEE Lemmy. I referred (repeatedly) to ActivityPub. So, it’s a bit misleading to say I’m inciting a pitchfork mob.

You’re right to say Mastodon and Lemmy don’t operate seamlessly, but Mastodon users can already follow and post to Lemmy Communities. They see Communities as just another User. And the more fediverse tools develop, I’m sure this will only strengthen.

I’m also not saying ‘corporations bad’. I’m saying ‘corporations are unnecessary for the fediverse to exist and probably will do bad things’.

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I see it more as a balance of probabilities thing. Given Meta do EEE things, given they openly want all your private data, given the social media they’ve created so far is considered harmful to lots of people and given all they really want is to turn a profit, are they more likely to try and EEE ActivityPub or leave it alone and co-exist peacefully?

Maybe the correct stance is for instance admins to turn the wait and see approach on its head. Given the above, defederate now then wait and see if Threads behaves itself. If it does, then federate.

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OK, well, I’m not. The most I’ll do is start an account elsewhere. There’s not really a lot I can do about what other people say. All I can do is respond to comments that are in turn commenting on what I did say.

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Noting wrong with hoping your software is successful - which to me, it is already - but when the cost outweighs the benefits, as it does in my opinion, that’s a price too high.

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I’m glad you think most things OP said are valid, as that’s me ;)

It is important to have healthy conversation about it - I don’t think there’s any reason to assume instance admins are acting in bad faith, even if I do think a wait and see approach is wrong and I certainly don’t think they should be being called out by name (or instance name) or harassed in any way - they’re providing a free of charge service after all. I donate to the person who admins the instance I’m on and I’d urge everyone to do the same.

But to extend your biohazard analogy - rather than containing a spill, wouldn’t it be better to prevent the spill from being able to happen in the first place?

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