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“Once you’ve been to Gaza, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Benjamin Netanyahu to death with your bare hands.”

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Leaked NYT Gaza Memo Tells Journalists to Avoid Words “Genocide,” “Ethnic Cleansing,” and “Occupied Territory” (theintercept.com)

The New York Times instructed journalists covering Israel’s war on the Gaza Strip to restrict the use of the terms “genocide” and “ethnic cleansing” and to “avoid” using the phrase “occupied territory” when describing Palestinian land, according to a copy of an internal memo obtained by The Intercept....

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And just when you think you’ve seen the worst of it…

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It rides on a reputation

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I vote for adding the tails os logo too

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I meant tails as one tool people use specifically for added security.

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Bullshit. A Nazi whose arm gets broken outside the context of someone defending themselves against them only creates an angstier angrier and more radicalized Nazi. It’s more counter productive than people like to think.

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“not necessarily” is a very low bar to excuse violence which we know radicalizes people. If it’s mostly psychological then I don’t see the need for arm breaking.

And before people give me shit about this: I hate Nazis, neoNazis have bothered me and my family on a personal level in the 90’s. They made us feel unsafe, and continue to make me feel unsafe where I live now whenever I randomly encounter them.

But fucking hell if I saw someone attacking a white power skinhead and breaking their arm unprovoked, I will be on their side and I will defend them.

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MORE RADICALIZED, GEEZ PLEASE READ.

And also right wing ideology is anti-radical?? What??? Is this semantics?

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Sure, go ahead, explain it.

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Still sounds counter productive and like some kind of mob justice to me. Do you have any science or analysis to support this?

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Yeah but you knew full well that that is not what radicalized meant in sentence. /:

Givng off a lot of pedantic vibes here

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https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ad3dcc7b-5147-4767-be25-b02d7d5d0c34.jpeg

Hmmm. Do you always disambiguate word meanings by first taking them out of context and then applying some textbook definition you like?

I clearly meant this: www.jstor.org/stable/43783789

Even people writing papers on this use this word to mean that in this context.

I’m not denying other meanings exist. I’m just saying that you’re kinda being a jerk to get UMMM-ACTUALLYYY smart-points. In your head. They are only in your head my dude.

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That is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard being said about language and how language works (and half my degree was in Linguistics).

If you can’t admit language changes, you’re gonna have a bad time.

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I think you’re just trying to pick a fight.

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And what? Radicalization can mean different things in context. What do you think was the context when talking about this violence cycle? Could it have been like that example from that paper, a widely used definition by both academics and non academics?

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Sounds like an excuse to be violent. No better than a Nazi in my view. They also come up with excuses for using violence for “the good of the nation”.

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I’m not a Liberal…

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When you go around breaking people’s arms at random intervals where you are your own judge and jury over a system you made up with no scientific basis, just with flimsy reasons sewn together, by intentionally giving people severe trauma (pretending that any psychistrist would not be totally horrified at thid BS)… you BECOME an aggressor. You are no better than the police. No more effective. Not s day closer to your goal.

Also trauma can often cause the exact opposite. Who allows you to take this risk for all of us in society? To go give a radicalized person more reason and fuel to be radicalized? So for every Nazi you “beat into becoming decent” (an impossible and demanding righteous power-trip fantasy), the next might be the next masshooter thanks to your arm breaking trauma. And you’ll have your Pikachu mouth all open when they go around shooting everyone with a single arm.

You system is inconsistent, unscientific, and really wish washy.

Not much better than the average corrupt police.

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But I am not talking like one 😎

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Choose what?

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So you think thay my “fear” is silly even though we have a good picture of how trauma affects individuals, and somehow it is akin to doing nothing according to your analysis (has it occured to you there are non violent ways to counter neoNazis?)…

but you also think your random knee cap busting is fine, mature, and heroic?

We have to agree to disagree then.

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So in conclusion, no science, just your interpretation and gut feeling about some available literature that is not really saying what you want to say?

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https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/74ee48ab-c136-4c60-a14a-850b3fa705b9.gif

Don’t drink or do drugs.

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Some clarifitcations and corrections:

ALL non-Muslim religious practices are not allowed in Saudi Arabia, they hate EVERYONE else, not directed specifically at Jews. Alsp, I lived in Jordan for most of my life and have never seen any law to indicate that claim. I also tried to google that. Could you source that claim? Because if it is true, then it would be directly contradicting the Jordanian constitution.

My friend’s grandmother is a Palestinian Jew who lives in Jordan and never seems to have had any legal trouble (even in the religious marriage court).

And yes, Jews from Arab countries have been cleansed and forced to leave during this: …wikipedia.org/…/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_wo…But that was only one factor. Many simply immigrate for pull or push factors. That is not to undermine the terrible event of anyone being forced out of their home.

Finally, it’s good to remember what Israel did to those Yemeni Jews, whether expelled or leaving to build a better future:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemenite_Children_Affair

We need to recognize that supremacy and oppression are symptoms of destructive settler-colonial Zionism. And that it needs to end. Israel is not the Jewish state Jews deserve… they deseeve much better as dignified people than to have this country (founded on violence, lies, and colonialism) drag their name in the mud and use the holocaust to justify genociding Palestinians. Jews deserve better than an undemocratic apartheid state that indoctrinate them from the cradle to the grave.

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Almost everyone absolutely thinks Saudi Arabis is abhorrent, any involvement they hsve with any human rights groups is instantly identified as whitewashing and becomes a meme. Protests in Iran receieved wide global attention and support. We don’t hold Israel to a different light. It’s the same light, Israel is just one if the really bad baddies.

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@JustZ here is the legal definition of the crime of Apartheid

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_of_apartheid

"The crime of apartheid is defined by the 2002 Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court as inhumane acts of a character similar to other crimes against humanity “committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime" .”

The other definitions are similar. Nothing about majority or minority. Nothing about having to be exactly like South Africa.

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