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ward, 1 month ago

@shanesemler My main thing is that I'm just not interested because AI can have no artistic intent... The final product may be interesting in some way... and the viewer may feel something when looking at it, but I'm generally interested in the human expressions. Typing words into a prompt isn't enough to qualify as human expression because ai is creating the image for you. If you want to do it for fun and you enjoy it, by all means, you do you. However, I'll call it content and ignore it even if it is somewhat visually interesting to me.

I'd rather look at something similar that was created by a human because they actually are putting their experiences into the work... even if the human is borrowing ideas from other artists... it's still the personification of their own feelings.

If we create ai that actually understands what it's doing... and can express things... then I may be interested, though I don't think it will make much sense to us humans... We anthropomorphize everything... But anyway... bottom line, do whatever you want. I'm only interested in the art that you create.

ward, 1 month ago

@shanesemler I look at this like I look at ai code. I do not see a few lines of code as art... or if you tell ai to write a fucntion or something... not art... but as a whole composition, it can be art... because the code was arranged. So, if you use ai to generate a bunch of random bits of code then use that to build a game yourself. I think that can be art. I feel the same for ai... if you generate a bunch of stuff and heavily edit it to make a collage or if you mix it into something that you create yourself... it's similar to cutting a bunch of stuff out of a magazine then transforming it into something that you arrange yourself. I'm not interested in that in any form, but some may be... as for editing a single image in photoshop... it would have to be a total transformation... just cleaning up the ugly hands of fixing errors isn't enough for me... but to each their own.

ward, 1 month ago

oh damn... check out my mix tape... (and maye hire me to do chiptunes, dos midi, or symphonic stuff for you game)
https://zweihander.bandcamp.com

ward, 1 month ago

@sabik @shanesemler I can agree to an extent. However, it has to be more than typing words into a prompt. If I send a paragraph to an artist and ask them to draw something for me, I am not the artist... they are... but ai isn't human, so that same paragraph given to ai means the content was created by nobody... ai has no artistic input... if a human takes that and transforms it into something of their own, then we can talk about that being art... I'm not interested in it, but maybe we can call it art of some sort.

ward, 1 month ago

@LucaManciniDrummer not the same thing. digital painting and digital music require a significant amount of human input. It's the human expression in the creation of the art that make it art. Typing things into a prompt means you are good at creating ideas... but the "ai" creates the content, not you... and ai does not understand what it is doing, does not have it's own experiences or ideas to draw from, and is void of expression. So, it's not the same as something created by a human. Even if it is visually appealing, I'm more interested in something created by a human. When ai becomes real ai and can think... reason, etc. Then maybe I'll be curious to see what it expresses.

ward, 1 month ago

@ironclad_chomskyan Yes. One of the last mods is a stutter fixer... It's just a stupid registry key that tells the game to run in high priority mode and it makes it a lot better... though it still chugs in cities.

ward, 1 month ago

been talking about it a lot and it seems to have to do with commerce, pandering, and unrealistic body standards... but I see stripping as commerce... and porn can give people unrealistic standards too... But really, I'm kinda just cool with whatever anyone is into... you do you and don't kink shame others. I don't really know how I feel about the whole, 'unrealistic beauty standards,' argument... I mainly only care about consent, but I guess I will think about it all more. I'm leaning toward the idea that people need to separate fantasy from reality.

ward, 1 month ago

@ironclad_chomskyan I don't think my takes on realistic body standards are going to make me many friends on the left... because I think it's almost futile to get into it... It's like pandora's box of insanity... and there's no putting things back in the box. Sex, sexiness, nudity, porn, and half-naked characters are a huge part of society. Anyway, most people I know are very pro-porn... but some of those same people are against sexy game characters.

So, I tend to just think that I don't care unless the body standard is unattainable through healthy means... like the anorexia standards of models in the 90s... or bodies that can only be achieved through surgery. However, someone like Cammy isn't unrealistic because she has natural boobs... and muscles... someone could work toward that as a goal if they wanted. I also think we need to separate fantasy from reality a little more. I don't know what to make of characters like Bayonetta because she looks like a creepy spider to me... but her body is literally impossible unless you're a mutant.

I'll look up Emma Goldman and Rosa Luxembourg to see what they say.

ward, 1 month ago

Also, if you watch the video, can you give it a like/comment. YT is absolutely murdering this video for some reason. I figured a Linux video would do better... but nope. I hate that only the videos that don't matter seem to get promoted.

ward, 1 month ago

@the_skotts that's what I'm thinking... There's also the possibility that a bunch of idiots walked into the bar right before I got there and made a scene about it being trans night or something stupid like that. They probably needed a hug