Arotrios
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Arotrios

@Arotrios@kbin.social

For Amusement Purposes Only.

Changeling poet, musician and writer, born on the 13th floor. Left of counter-clockwise and right of the white rabbit, all twilight and sunrises, forever the inside outsider.

Seeks out and follows creative and brilliant minds. And crows. Occasional shadow librarian.

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Depends on the instance in my experience - mastodon.social usually posts within seconds. Note that due to spam issues, kbin.social has been dealing with a recent wave of defederation, so if you're not seeing your posts appear, that might be the cause.

Arotrios,
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If you've got domains blocked, that might be causing the error. Domain blocking seems to gum up posting and comment visibility. Removing my domain blocks cleared up the issues I was having about a month ago.

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Dammit - you're one of the best posters here.

Odd that comments are working for you. During my previous issues I did note that there were posting differences when I used the "Add Link", "Comment" and "Post" functionality (which worked) versus the "Add Thread" and "Add Picture" options (which didn't, or worked partially after throwing an initial 500 error). Given that you can still comment, you may have some posting access with the other options.

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Ahh gotcha. The add Pics function never worked very well for me, so I haven't used it in a bit (mainly rely on Links and Threads). I've also noticed that kbin pictures only occasionally make it through Federation (seems to happen on other kbin instances as well) - seems really random whether or not they appear on the federating instance.

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@readbeanicecream Hashtags are really hit or miss in general across instances.

I found that most Mastodon instances only collect posts from other Mastodon instances under hashtags (definitely the case with mastodon.social). I suspect this is because they are sharing the same posting format.

The long form posting format that Lemmy and Kbin use for Threads has a 25k character limit, too big for most Mastodon instances. This long form post is truncated into the posting limits of the Mastodon instance, but the conversion protocol is not sophisticated enough to read the JSON file to flag the enclosed hashtags as data fields defining the post.

The user-facing presentation layer then adds hyperlinks to what it can determine as hashtags (as it does to anything with a # preceding it), but the federating instance itself thinks the entire post is just post content.

Related notes - I found that when posting to Kbin from Mastodon, the order of the hashtags determines which Microblog the post appears under. Also, Lemmy strips hashtags placed in the "Tags" section of a Thread or Link when content makes its way there.

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Just wanna say I agree - it can be a frustrating process to figure it all out.

In some cases, trying to follow a user takes me to an error page, and repeated attempts prove unsuccessful.

This confused the fuck out of me until I realized that Mastodon instances have the option for users to allow or deny follow requests. Basically, if you click on someone's follow and nothing happens (or you get an error page), what's happened is that you've sent them a follow request that they have to approve. Kbin's interface fails here (hopefully will improve with update) and does nothing. If they do chose to let you follow them, you'll see their account update.

In some cases, I can't even find particular instances that users post from via kbin.

Go to the poster's account, and follow them. If Kbin hasn't actively federated the site yet, it usually does so pretty quickly after a follow. This usually also lets you link to the community they posted to.

more content will to the I moderate.

Check your magazine's Microblog section - you may be getting more content than you realize. Your magazine tags will determine what additional content (aside from ) your Microblogs pick up. Everything from Mastodon users shows up there on Kbin.

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Not sure what's going on with the kbin.social/d/ view of urusai.social, but I was able to find posts (not threads) here:

https://kbin.social/search?q=urusai.social

This led me to @neatchee, who is the instance owner. You might try following them, but I agree, that's an odd bug.

Oddly enough, even users I have already followed do not have their content federated to these magazines at times, even though I have checked their history and seen them use the tags I've assigned to the magazines. I could simply be doing something wrong, but I'm not sure what it is.

Yeah, posting to Kbin from Mastodon instances is a challenge. Kbin filters and tries to assign incoming hashtags to existing magazine hashtags.

If a post contains a hashtag that is taken by another magazine, that magazine usually gets the content instead of yours. Your magazine's hashtag has to appear first in the text. Your Japanese forum is probably catching all of the posts before they get to LearnJapanese.

Second, it's random which of your magazine hashtags will pull content and from who. The order of the hashtags doesn't appear to affect this.

The only way to ensure a post gets from Mastdon to Kbin or Lemmy is to put @yourmagazine@kbin.social in the post tag. This will make sure it shows up on Lemmy, and will get your post to the Kbin Microblog of the magazine 90% of the time. If you want to be extra sure, do it like this:

@yourmagazinename@kbin.social #yourmagazinename (then any following hashtags)

Hopefully the update will clean this up a bit.

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@neatchee @daredevil I think perhaps someone has to post a link hosted on your instance for it to appear. For instance this works:

https://kbin.social/d/mastodon.social

but smaller instances like this:

https://kbin.social/d/pagan.plus

...don't seem to, generating a 404 because no one has created a link or thread back to a pagan.plus post (although their users post over to kbin often). Possibly posting link (in the url field of Add a Link on Kbin) to an urusai.social hosted post will do the trick.

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@daredevil @neatchee - Looks like the linked post is what did the trick. I posted here to the Fediverse community to let them know about your instance (it's pointed at your pinned intro post).

As such, this link is now working for daredevil:

https://kbin.social/d/urusai.social

And will allow subscriptions.

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Only that it knows about to start, but I think that once it gets subscriptions to the domain, it starts pulling more automatically. I could be wrong, however - I'm not sure which activities aside from posting are federated.

EDIT: I was wrong - the domain only grabs Threads, so Mastodon posts will likely not show up this way. They may get indexed if they're sent to a kbin magazine using the @magazinename@kbin.social format

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Short Stories:

I have no mouth and I must scream - Harlan Ellison - this story was the apogee of sci-fi horror in the 70s and 80s.

We Can Remember It for You Wholesale - Philip K. Dick's original short story and the inspiration for Total Recall.

Weird French Shit:

Fantastic Planet - Animated french scifi about humans being kept as pets by giant blue aliens.

City of Lost Children - steampunk cybercultists

Classic Movies:

They Live - In case you're out of bubblegum

Tremors - broke into the wrong goddamn rec room, didn't ya?

Scanners - Pop!

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Agreed. I did a rewatch before I posted it to the @13thFloor and I was amazed (hadn't seen it since I was a kid). Some of the most intriguing and beautiful surrealistic animation ever, and the story is remarkably good - generating a sort of slow clinical terror in the viewer that flows and builds beneath the bright alien landscapes.

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This is so good that it got me tracking down the full lyrics:

The sweet pretty things are in bed now, of course
The city fathers, they are trying to endorse
The reincarnation of Paul Revere's horse
But the town has no need to be nervous
The ghost of Belle Starr, she hands down her wits
To Jezebel the nun, she violently knits
A bald wig for Jack the Ripper, who sits
At the head of the Chamber of Commerce
Mama's in the factory, she ain't got no shoes
Daddy's in the alley, he's lookin' for food
I'm in the kitchen with the tombstone blues
The hysterical bride in the penny arcade
Screaming, she moans, "I've just been made"
Sends out for the doctor, who pulls down the shade
And says, "My advice is to not let the boys in"
And the medicine man comes and he shuffles inside
He walks with a swagger and he says to the bride
"Stop all this weeping, swallow your pride
You will not die, it's not poison"
Mama's in the factory, she ain't got no shoes
Daddy's in the alley, he's lookin' for food
I'm in the kitchen with the tombstone blues
Now, John the blacksmitht, he torturing a thief
Says to the hero, the Commander-in-chief
"Tell me, great hero, but please make it brief
Is there a hole for me to get sick in?"
The Commander-in-chief answers him while chasing a fly
Saying, "Death to all those who have whimper and cry"
And, dropping a barbell, he points to the sky
Saying, "The sun's not yellow, it's chicken"
Mama's in the factory, she ain't got no shoes
Daddy's in the alley, he's lookin' for the food
I'm in the kitchen with the tombstone blues
Alright
Let's hear that back
He got to put the wall up over him

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Just when you thought the internet couldn't possibly get any stupider: @the_elon

If I never see the word "Musk" again, it will be too soon.

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    @alex_02 @0x00string

    I think you're referring to Sisu - right on the edge of over the top...

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    Why looky there - love to see a post get legs... have a boost and an upvote, matey!

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