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Basically a deer with a human face. Despite probably being some sort of magical nature spirit, his interests are primarily in technology and politics and science fiction.

Spent many years on Reddit and is now exploring new vistas in social media.

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Great, digital archaeologists in the far off distant year 2000 will be even more confused about these community names now.

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Also a lot of the normies use those 3rd party apps that are going to cease to exist on June 30 and are not going to be happy with Reddit's "official" substitute. For a lot of people the app is Reddit.

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Ah, this is what an "adult company" means.

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I would consider ~10 million to be "a lot".

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Wonder if they're doing that to hinder web-scrapers from harvesting comments now that the API is going away.

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Can they really be replaced, though? There aren't an infinite number of people willing to do shitty internet janitorial work for free. You generally get two types of people to fill that role, those who are passionate about the subject and those who like having control.

The passionate ones are rare and special, they make a community good. They'll go away. The power-hungry ones might stick around. But they'll make the subs worse, and they're now serving at the whim of Reddit so they might not be so happy with that kind of "power" either. They could have so much more power - the power of the gods admins themselves - if they were to run their own instance on the Fediverse.

Reddit may find enough scabs to keep the lights on, but if this was really a cost-free solution to Reddit's problem they would have done it ages ago.

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Money is the whole reason they're doing any of this, though. The more money this debacle costs them the worse it is for them. They just laid off 5% of their staff, and now they're going to have to hire paid moderators?

The Lemmy User Experience is Better When Centralized into Fewer Instances

Most people access the Fediverse through one of the large instances: lemmy.world, kbin, or beehaw. New or small instances of Lemmy have no content by default, and can most easily get content by linking to larger Lemmy instances. This is done manually one "Community" at a time (I spent 15 minutes doing this yesterday). Meanwhile,...

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Block-listing all users from lemmy.world from interacting with beehaw would be an amazing ability. That would put beehaw in a read-only state for users on lemmy.world, whilst still allowing beehaw users access to lemmy.world. Unfortunately, the current admin/mod tools do not allow for that.

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Besides, the lemmy.world admin is working on custom tooling to deal with this issue. Because it is their users causing this issue, and it is their problem.

It seems to me that calling this "lemmy.world's problem" and expecting them to be the ones to solve it is disingenuous. You yourself say that you could "solve" it with your own custom tooling. Why not work on adding the ability to block users from a specific other instance on your instance, if that would be an amazing ability? Why is it only lemmy.world that has to do work to solve the problem?

Other instances also allow open signups, and there will no doubt be more of them in the future.

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Seems like something that a scumball could reconcile easily enough; "we're not overruling mods or forcing a subreddit back open. We're just removing voluntarily inactive mods, and if whoever happens to step in after we do that wants to reopen the subreddit then that's entirely their decision."

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He who counts the votes has the only vote that counts.

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Also worth bearing in mind what this champion of the common man once said with regard to his preparations for the apocalypse:

“I also have this somewhat egotistical view that I’m a pretty good leader. I will probably be in charge, or at least not a slave, when push comes to shove.”

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And these sorts of defederations may also serve as a "hey, do something about this" smack to the defederated instances. Provided that lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works don't actually want to have trolls like that among their users they could implement mechanisms to make it harder for them to sign up.

If someone wants to deliberately run a 4chan-like free-for-all instance, that's fine, but I expect nobody's going to want to federate with it.

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They've already got a copy, I guess.

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Has /r/OSHA made it over to the Fediverse yet? I have a paladin character who likes to point out OSHA violations in the dungeons she goes through.

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Couple questions that I couldn't find answers to on Google.

  1. Is the only way to see your list of subscribed magazines here? https://kbin.social/settings/subscriptions/magazines
  2. Is there any way to follow a kbin tag?
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There's an option to hide it in your user settings.

US supreme court upholds protections for Native American children (www.theguardian.com)

The US supreme court has ruled that Native American children can continue to be protected under federal law against being removed from their tribal communities for fostering or adoption, rejecting a petition from a white couple who argued that the provision was a form of racial discrimination.

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Not necessarily. I think it's more important that a child be placed with a loving family rather than that they be placed with someone that happens to share a lot of genes or a cultural heritage with their ancestors, and this court case says that those latter factors can override the former. It's complicated.

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It seems to me that beehaw could already accomplish something along these lines with an "automod" equivalent that just insta-rejects any outsider posts on their hosted communities. So having that built into the protocol as a flag of some sort may actually be a good idea, because then other instances would be able to more easily see that behaviour and choose to not federate with them in return. If I was running a Lemmy or Kbin instance I wouldn't want to bother my users with communities that they could see but not interact with.

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He couldn't have copyrighted E=mc^2, he'd have had to patent it. But laws of nature are excluded from patent eligibiligy in the US, and presumably most other jurisdictions.

Software code is an interesting edge case in the middle. The code itself is a creative expression, and so copyright applies. This brings benefits as well as restrictions; software code is also speech as far as many free-speech rights are concerned. The algorithms expressed by the code are subject to software patents, which is a more controversial grey area.

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Indeed, I don't think I would consider a place a "safe space" if I was constantly thinking "will I get banned for saying what I'm about to say?"

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I got permabanned from /r/canadapolitics because I explained to someone why I thought their comment was being downvoted. No warning, no appeal. They have a rule there that prohibits downvoting even though there's no way to stop it or detect who's doing it, and apparently my comment was enough for the mods there to go "aha, a downvoter!"

Nothing remotely to do with Nazis, but not a safe forum nevertheless.

Universal ‘chasing arrows’ recycling symbol could be dumped in US (theguardian.com)

[...]the widespread use of the symbol on products that are not routinely accepted for recycling is helping stoke “consumer confusion about what is recyclable and/or compostable” and is leading to “deceptive or misleading” claims on packaging, according to the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)....

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Even the plastic types that do get recycled aren't particularly economical.

I think there needs to be a major rethink of what is actually best for the environment. Landfills actually aren't a bad option, IMO - when they're properly designed they don't pollute groundwater and the stuff put into them stays there indefinitely. Maybe someday they'll even be useful to mine for resources.

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All they need to be is better than the official Reddit app, since there will be no other competition than the official Reddit app.

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Those were passed in 2018. They don't seem to have had much effect on Reddit in the past five years, and don't seem to be particularly broad in their applicability to online fora in general.

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Oh oh, I visited it and didn't post anything. I broke the rule.

In my defence, I was hopelessly confused.

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A lot wordier, but then again Asimov was trying to write a short story about this. :)

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