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Kierunkowy74

@Kierunkowy74@kbin.social

Today's social media transform us into merely numbers.
No problem for me.

Alts: @Kierunkowy74 (kbin.earth) @Kierunkowy74 (PieFed)
Polish account: @Kierunkowy74
Mastodon: @74 or @Kierunkowy74 (alt)

How do kbin instances (and all aggregator protocols) work to maintain privacy and safety? What can we put up on the roadmap (when there is one)? (Instance members at least; ppl posting on fedi in general)

This is going to be kbin focused because that's the infra I'm most familiar with, but if any part of this is relevant to Lemmy and other upcoming aggregators it's worth a think too:...

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kbin.social has already turned CAPTCHA on, compared to mastodon.social that time.

szczur, to fediverse
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So what's the deal with the Threadiverse exactly?

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@szczur
Threadiverse is /kbin and Lemmy. You already know them as karab.in and szmer.info. Reddit decided to destroy its credibility in eyes of its users (API changes, approach to protesting subreddits, etc.). A mass migration to Lemmy instances and kbin.social happened.
Lemmy is no longer 1000 monthly users, and /kbin is no longer 200 of them.
Today, you are one of over 40 000 users of kbin.social. All the Lemmy has now over 35 000 monthly users!
The API shall come into force with beginning of July.

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Also, witaj na międzynarodowym karabinie!

@szczur

Kbin and Lemmy should come to a consensus on how to name stuff

Is there really a reason, for example, for there to be the distinction of "magazine" and "community"? When you're federating, the same features should be called the same, if close enough. That way everyone can talk with everyone about stuff and we all immediately understand each other....

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/kbin magazines, Lemmy communities and Friendica forums are (according to ActivityStreams vocabulary) groups. However, the same applies to Mobilizon groups, which work slightly differently, allow private discussions, having common file resources, and most important of all - organising events.
We could also call these three subfeddits, which is another word to learn ;)
or simply to go ahead. All communities and forums already will be seen by /kbin as magazines, and the same is accordingly true to other software.

Also, not all vocabulary aligning is actually desired - /kbin explicitly uses name boost to align with Mastodon feature. However, both "boost" and upvote have a "boosting" effect - the meaning of the feature (being simply reblog or re-tweet) is obscured right now.

Another confusing Mastodon nomenclature alignement is calling only microblog posts posts. Majority of /kbin users are Reddit emigrants right now, and Reddit used name post for /kbin article. In reality, everything, from articles and "tweets", through audio and video, to places, events and relationships (!), can in ActivityPub be called posts. ActivityStreams vocabulary differentiates between an article (long form, formatted), and note (short, equivalent of tweet and toot), and IMO /kbin should adopt the name note for microblog posts - to reduce confusion (Calc- and Misskey already use that name).

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some common nomenclature

It already exists. The terminology is coherent, but unintuitive - any interaction is Activity, any user, erm... magazine or group is Actor, and any interaction is Activity.

/kbin server update - or how the server didn't blow up

Currently, on the main instance, people have created 40191 accounts (+214 marked as deleted). I don't know how many are active because I don't monitor it, but once again, I greet all of you here :) In recent days, the traffic on the website has been overwhelming. It's definitely too much for the basic docker-compose setup,...

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This is a slippery slope. Reddit used to be open-source...

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First, just because reddit fucked it up doesn't mean that's the only path forward.

Hundreds of thousands of people on Fedi are yet to be convinced to this. Your opinion is unpopular, and any try do combine fedi with funding by advertisements could likely break the fediverse rather than make it more sustainable.

Upvoted your comments inter alia for courage.

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https://kbin.social/m/LiminalSpace@karab.in and https://kbin.social/m/LiminalSpaces

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PeerTube compatibility does not work yet on /kbin, but is planned.

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It does not work on /kbin ATM.
Example: https://kbin.social/m/thelinuxexperiment_channel@tilvids.com shows nothing even when originating instance shows 20+ videos published on the channel.

YSK adding tags will make your posts more discoverable on the wider Fediverse

On KBin we have the ability to add tags to posts. These can either be directly added using the “pound” sign octothorpe, as in #KbinMeta. You can also add tags using the “Tags” field when creating an article, link, or photo. The second method will append the tags to the end of the post when the post is federated....

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Btw, can we personalize what tags appear in the Microblog page of a magazine?

Yes, owner of the magazine should be able to do that.

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I liked unified "new thread" button, as it would more clearly differentiate making a new thread and new note (microblog post). URL not being obligatory to a new post is then no more obvious and needs some hint, though.
More tightly knit communities will prefer showing Local feed, and Lemmy does that better, than /kbin. The options between local and federated feeds is not hidden and needs one click less, than on /kbin.

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Wider layout, actually black text (compared to Lemmingish grey), and clearly distinguished boxes with comments. Plus several "skins", including solarized light and dark. Less eye strain.

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I do wish there were more users here at kbin.social, though, as the federated feed is more lively on the large Lemmy instances.

kbin.social has more MAU (Monthly Active Users) now, than all Lemmy combined! That is of course effect of the spike this month and shall fade only on July, but did you already see activity on kbin.social alone fading?

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Do you want to post events via /kbin? Yes, this is on a roadmap. Yes, Ernest plans to integrate with Mobilizon.

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Magazines! quickly runs away

davidrevoy, to random
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Yesterday, users of mstdn.social instance lost their connections to artists at mastodon.art instance ( src: https://framapiaf.org/@Curator@mastodon.art/110570978375947500 ). I hope giving visibility to this issue will help them to restore the broken bridges.

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@shipp

and also

  • pixey.org (Pixelfed)

  • gram.social (Pixelfed)

  • peertube.tv (PeerTube)

  • forum.fail (/kbin)

  • geddit.social (Lemmy)

@Curator @davidrevoy @manicdee @Gargron @stux @NatureMC

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At some point they stopped playing whack-a-mole and imported some blocklist for Mastodon

OC Are 'reddit-like' federated instances trying fit a square peg into a round hole?

Rather than try to act like a link aggregator where people submit links to articles and images and that submission comes with a comment thread specific to the fediverse instance in which it was submitted, what if each news site, image host, blog, whatever was itself the instance and the reddit-style instances federate with...

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This already works on /kbin, at least with WriteFreely.
Any blogpost from WriteFreely blog (if followed by someone on /kbin) is fetched and displayed as another thread. You can comment, up- and downwote, and also boost it. WriteFreely account does not see interactions, but they federate across instances, including Mastodon.
An example WriteFreely blogpost, and the same blogpost, but viewed on /kbin

Wordpress can also be compatible with the Fediverse, but all implementations so far (which I have seen) treat posts as "notes" = toots = microblog posts - to cope with Mastodon dominance.

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kbin.social is 36 258 ATM, more than any Lemmy server.

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Mastodon has an option to bookmark a post, which is different to both favourite and boost.

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Want more visibility to the content? Boost it! This is what was meant for.
Bad content, but relevant and needs visibility - then boost and downvote at the same time (or it should be possible on kbin)

Should we also take a serious look at properly governed centralised solutions instead of federations decentralisation? What about a non-profit running a platform with democratic governance? (feddit.de)

While the second paragraph has been slightly debunked, the first paragraph is an interesting idea I've underappreciated/neglected until now....

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Federation will live forever, it's not that certain with anything centralised.

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Done.

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Another list of subreddits, which moved to the Fediverse Remove discord, matrix, and misc, as they are not part of the Fediverse (Matrix is federated, but using another protocol)

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
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  • megavids
  • thenastyranch
  • rosin
  • GTA5RPClips
  • osvaldo12
  • love
  • Youngstown
  • slotface
  • khanakhh
  • everett
  • kavyap
  • mdbf
  • DreamBathrooms
  • ngwrru68w68
  • provamag3
  • magazineikmin
  • InstantRegret
  • normalnudes
  • tacticalgear
  • cubers
  • ethstaker
  • modclub
  • cisconetworking
  • Durango
  • anitta
  • Leos
  • tester
  • JUstTest
  • All magazines
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