@Jezebelley3D Because they want exactly Twitter and not something, which „may be actually much, much bigger”? And BlueSky exactly delivers it.
No worries, works on bridging ATProto and AP are underway.
differences between threadiverse folks and microbloggers on the fedi:
microbloggers boost a lot, but that's not big on the threadiverse
microbloggers tend not to like anything - neither the posts they keep boosting nor the replies to their own posts - whereas this is absolutely common on the threadiverse
microbloggers tend not to reply - whereas on the threadiverse, this keeps happening all the time
@testing Microbloggers are already trained not to like, but rather to boost posts. Ther are aware of likes not accounting (that much) to making content popular.
@gmph postanowił zintegrować Mastodona jako system do skomentowania jego wpisu. Widzę, że komentarze wyświetlają się tylko chronologicznie - bez wątkowania w szeroko omawianym artykule, takim jak ten, gwarantuje to nieczytelny bałagan.
A, i testuję, czy wpis z /kbin pojawi się pod artykułem
Mastodon has the responsibility to promote diversity in the Fediverse
I love the Threadiverse. Compared to the microblogging Fediverse’s sea of random thoughts, Lemmy and kbin are so much easier to navigate with the options to sort posts by subscribed, from local instances or everything federated. You can also sort by individual community, and then there are the countless ways to order the posts and comments (which are stored neatly under the main post, by the way). That people can more easily find the right discussions and see where they can contribute also means that the discussions tend to be more focused and productive than elsewhere. Decentralisation also makes a lot of sense, since it is built around different communities. All that’s needed is users.
Things were going quite well for a while when Reddit killed third-party apps, prompting many to leave and find the Threadiverse. However, it is quite difficult to entertain a crowd that has grown accustomed to a constant bombardment of dopamine-inducing or interesting content by tens of millions of users, if you only have a couple hundred thousand people. This is causing some to leave, which of course increases this effect. The active users have more than halved since July, according to FediDB. The mood is also becoming more tense. Maybe the lack of engagement drives some to cause it through hostility, I’m not quite sure. Either way, the Threadiverse becoming a less enjoyable place to be, which is quite sad considering how promising it is.
But what is really frustrating is that we could easily have that userbase. The entire Fediverse has over ten million users, and many Mastodonians clearly want to engage in group-based discussion, looking at Guppe groups. The focused discussions should also be quite attractive. Technically we are federated, so why do Mastodonians interact so little with the Threadiverse? The main reason is that Mastodon simply doesn’t federate post content. I really can’t see why the platform that federates entire Wordpress blogs refuses to federate thread content just because it has a title, and instead just replaces the body with a link to the post. Very unhelpful.
The same goes with PeerTube. There are plenty of videos on there that I am quite sure a lot of Mastodonians would appreciate, yet both views and likes there stay consistently in the tens. Yes, Mastodon’s web interface has a local video player, but in most clients it is the same link shenanigans, may may partly explain the small amount of engagement. This is also quite sad, because Google’s YouTube is one of the worst social network monopolies out there, if not the worst.
And I know some might say that Mastodon is a microblogging platform and that it makes sense only to have microblogging content, but the problem is that Mastodon is the dominant platform on the Fediverse, its users making up close to 80% of all Fedizens. It has gone so far that several Friendica and Hubzilla users have been complaining about complaints from Mastodonians that their posts do not live up to Mastodon customs, and of course, that people frequently use “Mastodon” to refer to the entire Fediverse. This, of course, goes entirely against the idea of the Fediverse, that many diverse platforms live in harmony with and awareness of each other.
The very least that Mastodon could do is to support the content of other platforms. Then I’d wish that they’d improve discoverability, by for instance adding a videos tab in the explore section, improving federation of favourites since it is the dominant sorting mechanism on many other platforms, and making a clear distinction between people (@person) and groups (!group), but I know that that is quite much to ask.
P.S. @feditips , @FediFollows , I know that you are reluctant to promote Lemmy and its communities because of the ideology of its founders, but the fact is firstly that it’s open source and there aren't any individual people who control the entire project, and that the software itself is very apolitical. In fact, most Lemmy users both oppose and are on instances that have rules against such beliefs, so I highly encourage you to at least help raise awareness on the communities. Then, of course, there’s kbin, which isn’t associated with any extremism at all. As a bonus, it has much better integration with the microblogging Fediverse, but it is a lot smaller and younger, and still very much under development.
Anyways, that was a ramble. Thanks for hearing me out.
"(...)Just like Lemmy won’t support Place objects, I’m not sure if any other platform will ever support Page objects, because Pages are much bigger in scope than anything most Fediverse applications ever deal with."
Article or Page objects are supported not only by Lemmy and /kbin (and Mastodon, but as link). It is a default object type on WriteFreely, can be used on WordPress, and is compatible with Friendica. Hometown (a Mastodon fork) also renders Pages and Articles in their entirety.
@lusterko We are talking on a equivalent of centuryclub subreddit. It should be restricted to redditors with proven karma more than 100 000.
Both you and @stopthatgirl7 have more than 100 000 reputation (which is somewhat similar, measured by boosts and votes).
Bizarrily, neither me, nor Ernest (!), nor sub owner have got 100k rep on /kbin alone.
Strangers offering unsolicited advice or derailing conversations should be familiar to all who use social media. In our new #Mastodon for Android update, we’re testing a new feature aimed to curb these behaviours:
Posts and comments here are displayed hierarchically (nested), they are assigned to different, thematical "magazines", which can be created by users. And with /kbin you can conveniently view, vote and comment Reddit-like threads from Lemmy, or even post them yourself!
@lydiaconwell E-mail and ActivityPub are separate protocols, so, an e-mail address and a Mastodon handle can be on the same domain, with the same nick name.
However, it's up to individual instance maintainers to provide something like this.
Great to learn of a growing African presence on the fediverse. For the first time, I came across an Algeria themed 🇩🇿 instance, perhaps the first instance set up for and by an African community here (there could be others that I'm not aware of).
The instance is dz.social (Dz, short for the country's local name "Dzayer" and .dz is the country's internet domain code.
It's a start. Happy to see a Maghreb presence here. P.S Algerians are amazing people to befriend.
Shouldn't this be "Photos"? All I see are individual photos posted and no discussion or interaction. There isn't even an about section in the sidebar. This really feels like a magazine that was created because someone thought that people would expect it to exist, then abandoned.
@Squidcopter ATM lots of Mastodon users post their photos under the tag "Photography" and it's not going to change because of what we want on /kbin. Individual photo posting, at least on microblog, is here to stay. It may be interesting to devote the threads to discussion/interaction on photography, and "toots" to individual photos, though.