The comment I replied to wasn't "engaging in reasonable discourse" either. You're right that it was inappropriate to call the commenter a piss baby, but I didn't have any expectation of a conversation either.
“Let’s just fine the guy about a million dollars and make him unable to get to work for the next ten years because he hit the tree with his side mirror”
You’re fucking unhinged if you think that’s even remotely a reasonable take. I get this community is about decreasing our reliance on cars but that doesn’t give you a pass to be an insufferable piss baby when you get upset about something.
That driver isn’t single-handedly responsible for our car dependent society, so stop acting like they are and direct your frustrations somewhere more healthy.
No, there’s no legal requirements to say the pledge or anything. I’ve never seen it done outside of schools, it’s just a weird tradition that has been carried on.
In my high school nobody in my classes actually said it, but one of the teachers or the student council president would say it over the intercom (we didn’t even stand for it, usually just went back to our work while they talked).
As a younger child in elementary school I remember we were expected to say it, and I do remember a couple kids getting yelled at for not saying it (by the teacher, I don’t think there was any formal punishment). I know some Muslim children would say the whole thing and leave out the “under God” part.
I never paid much attention to it until I got older and realized how weird it was. I’m hoping it goes away eventually.
I think I've seen more customized Teslas than any other vehicle to be honest. Half the ones in my area are wrapped, have custom wheels, bumpers, etc. I'm pretty sure it's just another way people are customizing their vehicles.
Some Tesla down the road from me has the coolest holographic rainbow wrap on it, it makes me envious every time I see it.
Also, it could be that the T logo is the only piece of chrome on the newer models from the factory. I personally abhor chrome on vehicles, so I could totally see someone debadging theirs to get it off.
Exactly this. I expect to keep my Model Y around for a long time, but I'm excited about how much more developed the EV industry will be when it's time for me to buy my next car. More competition is always a good thing, and I'm hoping the new players in the EV space will either produce a better product than Tesla, or force Tesla to iron out more kinks in their products to stay competitive.
Honest question, have you personally been inside a Tesla or did you form your opinion through YouTube videos, car reviewers, and anecdotes from other people?
I wouldn't say the interior is on par with a typical "luxury" vehicle by any means, but I don't think it's bad either.
Edit because I think this is relevant:
A few weeks ago I made my first large mess in my Model Y. While getting out of the car I slipped and spilled a soda, a pizza slice, and 5 wings all over the seat and floorboards. I had root beer going down the walls, pooling in the seats, saturating the carpet, etc.
And I have to say, that is the EASIEST interior I've ever cleaned in a car. It took me about 15-20 minutes and it was spotless. The faux leather is sealed nicely so the soda didn't absorb through the stitches or run out the sides, the trim pieces were fit together snugly and I didn't have to go digging to wipe soda out of the door jamb or seat tracks. The fabric on the B pillars and headliner didn't stain, and it was easy to get to any spots I needed to. It doesn't smell like any of the food afterwards either.
I've spilled shit in a bunch of other cars and trucks of all shapes and sizes, and the Tesla was the easiest to clean up by far. I was impressed.
I'm sorry you feel that way, but I truly believe you have a fundamental misunderstanding about what the Tesla premium connectivity subscription is for. Most vehicles don't come with a SIM card and LTE connection that you can use like a phone. It would be ridiculous to pay for premium connectivity in a vehicle that doesn't have those features, but Teslas literally have a cellular data connection. That poses a recurring cost to the carrier (in this case it's AT&T but paid thru Tesla), so it makes perfect sense for that to be a recurring cost to the end user.
Your car doesn't come with free oil changes or tires for life, so why would Tesla pay a similar amount indefinitely on all it's vehicles?
That article you keep posting says nothing about the bumpers being taped on. It's also almost 3 years old and the problem was fixed long ago, so you should probably find a new "favorite Tesla fact".
The fact that you resorted to personally attacking @ANuStart instead of defending your "facts" with actual evidence says a lot.
Absolutely nowhere does it say that the bumpers are held on with tape. Bumpers falling off was a real issue at one point, and it has been fixed by now. You can't just make up random extra bullshit and try to pass it off as "facts".
I'm not sure where you got this from? The rear bumper on the Model Y is held on with a couple bolts and industry-standard body clips. You can watch a disassembly video here:
Haha, I get this. My other vehicle is a lifted F150 that I use for off-roading and camping, so I'm a sinner in both camps depending on which vehicle I leave the house with.