fr0g

@fr0g@kbin.social
fr0g,

am I able to view lemmy content here on kbin and interact with it without having to create an account on beehaw or whatever?

In the vast majority of cases, yes. Some servers might not decide to talk to each other, but that's not a kbin/lemmy thing, but a fediverse thing in general and not very prevalent.

What exactly is the difference between the upvote (and downvote) button and boost? Is boost just upvote but moreso?

Boosts are used to brodcast posts to your followers. The same as in mastodon or retweets on twitter.

Is there a "save" function like reddit had, where you can bookmark posts to your profile?

I don't think there's a specific feature for that yet. But if you look at your profile, you can see your own boosts. So you could ise it as a pseudo-bookmark in the meantime (although there's still a bug in that boost section of the profile which shoumd get sorted the next couple days)

Is there an android app(s) for kbin?

No, not yet. I think there are some plans for a progressive web app, but no mobile app proper is being developed yet as far as I know

fr0g,

Upvotes are upvotes on lemmy and likes on mastodon. Boosts are boosts on mastodon and don't exist on lemm afaik.

We should be able to click links on other lemmy/kbin instances and open them in our own instance

Not entirely sure how possible this is, but it's a pretty large pitfall I just discovered. If someone links a thread in a comment and I click it, my browser will open the thread in their instance, not mine. Therefore, if I want to interact with the post they linked, I have to copy it, paste it into my instance's search bar, find...

fr0g,

I'm not sure how feasible that is to do server-side. Mastodon for example only does this with a browser plug-in (or in its apps,), so I assume that would also ve required here.

fr0g,

They are not the same, but they can talk to each other. Both aim to create a reddit-like experience with groups, threads and votes. And both use the ActivityPub protocol, meaning that not only can different kbin (or lemmy) servers talk to each other and you can see groups, conversations etc from other servers on your own (if both servers agree to talk to each other), they can also talk to entirely different services. So you can interact with mastodon posts in kbin and kbin groups on lemmy etc.

So they both follow the same basic rules of communication, but otherwise are fairly different. Written in different programming languages (I thinm), different features implemented, different UI.

So for the most part, in terms of what conversations you want to take part in, it mostly doesn't matter which you use. But in terms of user experience and features, there can be big differences so you can try out both and see what suits you better.

fr0g,

Each account you have is tied to your server. So you can't log into kbin with your mastodon account and you can only use your mastodon account for mastodon app (although some apps support several services).
But you can use your mastodon account to comment on a beehaw or kbin thread. And you can use kbin to follow mastodon accounts in the typical timeline style (don't think lemmy/beehaw can do that though)

Do you need all three? Probably not. Mastodon is really best for twitter style interactions, lemmy/beehaw for reddit style discussions. Kbin can actually do both in a reasonable manner, but is still the earliest in development, while Mastodon is the most mature with some cool extra features.
Personally, I think three accounts is probably too much in the long run (I have a Masto and a kbin account) but you can take your time and see what experience you like best.

fr0g,

I just posted a comment here and deleted it and at least for me there is no "deleted by" kinda post. Dunno how it will look on lemmy or what's going on in the backend.

fr0g,

I think Karl actually gets a lot of love on Lemmy, ifyaknowwhatimean. 🟥🛠️

/kbin update - upvotes, boosts, languages...

Hi everyone, You may have noticed a small change on the website. From now on, upvotes work just like on Lemmy - they are equivalent to Mastodon's "favourite." You can boost a post using the button that replaced "favourite." Another change is that you can now rate and boost your own posts. Boosting has a one-time effect - it...

fr0g,

Not sure if you're aware of that already, but the order of items for Activity is currently boosts, reduces, faves, which I assume is still a holdover from the old way to do it or at least it's kinda unintuitive. Don't think this is a particularly urgent issue, but maybe something to mark down for later.

fr0g,

They do carry over, but until just now kbin was using boosts for upvotes while lemmy uses likes. Now that kbin also uses likes you should see the numbers align much better.
(I don't think downvotes currently federate between the two projects though)

fr0g,

Picked a random new lemmy post. Currently has 5 upvotes both on lemmy and kbin

https://lemmy.ml/post/1173612
https://kbin.social/m/memes@lemmy.ml/t/6513/evil/favourites

Not really sure what's with the nixcraft thing, but generally speaking you also can't expect like numberd etc to be perfectly identical across the fediverse, even different masto instsnces will show different numbers. Because not everyone federates with everyone and different servers fetch things at different paces.

Not sure how much of that applies to kbin or if there's something else, but I'd assume that since kbin is still fairly new and small, there are a lot of servers it hasn't federated with, it isn't picking up on yet.

fr0g,

You could check out kbin.social and see if the customization options can be made to your liking. You can definitely turn off thumbnails on a user level for example and make it look quite old-reddity in general.
Would need a new account of course, but thanks to federation you can still follow and participate in the same communities.

fr0g,

To divert resources from/mess up Ukraine's planned offensive.
Also they haven't exactly been below causing great suffering for civilians simply because they can throughout this war.

Comment field snapping to above screen on mobile

I'm having an issue when trying to comment on posts (or reply to other comments) on Firefox mobile on Android. Once the top of the text box moves above the confines of the screen, the whole page snaps downward so that the text box is off screen entirely. It makes it nearly impossible to type out longer comments....

fr0g,

Can confirm. I have the same issue on FF for Android.

Shower thought: Would it make sense to popularize having Instances dedicated to single topics?

From what i can gather, it could be beneficial to, for example, have an instance which would become the main place to get videogame content on Lemmy. Most communities would be for specific games or AAA companies, but it could also have c/general for asking questions or topics which are non specific to any community, or c/meta,...

fr0g,

Reddit hugely benefits from centralization. It's hard to vibrant communities for niche topics when these communities are even further split up through some means.
This is a challenge lemmy/kbin etc have to face that will make mass adoption even more difficult than for mastodon etc where the focal point are people and not groups anyways.

I think making an effort to have topic specific instances and not generalistic instances that often duplicate topics is possibly one of the best way to mitigate this inbuilt advantage lemmy/kbin etc face.

Other hugely important things would be integration with groups from mastodon, pixelfed etc once those come along and the ability to merge and move entire communities imo.

On Reddit and it’s federated rivals, Lemmy and kbin (www.jayeless.net)

As you may have heard, Reddit’s decided to pull a Twitter and start charging an extortionate amount of money for access to their previously-free API, in order to drive third-party clients like Apollo and RIF into extinction. Under Reddit’s proposed pricing, …

fr0g,

However, Kbin maps upvotes to boosts, and displays “favourites” (which include Lemmy upvotes) separately.

Does anyone know if that applies for both threads and replies? I think it make some sense for threads. Would get a bit annoying though if you followed some kbin account on mastodon or similar and every single upvote for every single reply gets boosted.

fr0g,

I do like the idea of both likes and boosts adding to the score (but not double) which I think (I used translataion) the last comment in the codeberg issue is making.

And even at the risk of making things more complicated I wonder if it would make sense to have separate logic for threads and replies. I think for threads, upvoting to increase relevance/have it be shown to more people in the community makes way more sense, while within the conversation, I feel it correlates much more strongly to simpe approval/disapproval. And if you already are IN the thread thread, you probably want to see upvoted comments, but if you aren't, getting random comments from random convos boosted into your timeline is just confusing.

So I think there's some arguments for separating thread/comment logic, which also opens up new avenues for UI.

Main threads could even get rid of the upvotes/downvote buttons and have one single button "increase reach" button that corelates with fedi-boosting and also is used as the scoring mechanism.

Replies could have the classic up and downvotes with the upvote correlating to likes.

And I guess both main threads and replies could have a separate smaller button that correlates to likes for main threads and boosts for replies.

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