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I'm not a fan of their decision, but not having public repositories definitely isn't the same thing as going closed source.

Can someone explain how this moderation action works? A lemmy.ml user removed a post from a partizle.com user from a kbin.social magazine.

relevant magazine is /m/RedditMigration here on kbin.social. You can see it's the one and only report in the modlog yet the user who removed the comment is not listed in the moderators list, is not even a kbin.social user, and did not remove a lemmy.ml comment. Yet, it was removed for me as a kbin.social user....

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Not really. That has to be a bug in kbin, not a problem with Lemmy. Lemmy allows admins to delete stuff off their own instance, but kbin shouldn't be just accepting that as a mod action from any admin on any server it's federated with. That doesn't even make sense. I assume it's just a weird interaction of different ways of handling things on kbin and Lemmy.

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It's invalid, not invalid. You have the emphasis on the wrong syllable. English is dumb.

What do you recommend as a good FOSS private and secure chat app on Android that isn't Signal?

I have nothing against Signal. I just don't have access to a phone number right now. I fully intend to use the Signal when I get a number. I know there is no silver bullet, no absolutes in the privacy world but I'm looking for any messengers that are generally considered to be private and secure on Android that I can try to...

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A phone is a radio broadcast device. If you're sending something unencrypted from it, anyone nearby can listen in to what it's sending. Of course, it's all compressed and sent with different protocols depending on what app you're using, so it's not trivial to read messages from everyone to everyone all the time, but if someone is determined it's quite doable. SMS messages in particular are famous for having that happen to them, but it can happen with any unencrypted message.

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It's not nearly as smooth and painless outside of Steam and Proton, but it's still a lot better than it used to be. 3 hours of work is pretty rare.

Heroic and Lutris take some time to get setup up properly, but once they are they usually just work. If they don't, popular games are usually easy to find help with. Older games are also more likely to just work, so for most people I think it's mostly just games with uncooperative anti-cheat that cause major problems. There will be more minor problems than on Windows though, and a few games here and there that just stubbornly refuse to work.

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To be fair, they said the reason they were defederating from those two instances in particular is because most of their moderation involved people from them. They didn't expand beehaw beyond what they could handle, the rest of lemmy expanded beyond what they could handle. If this really is just a temporary measure, which is also what they said, then I think it's pretty reasonable.

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I'm not denying that it sucks, but if you'd told anybody this was going to happen a month ago they'd have just laughed at you. Of course they were unprepared. Everbody has more than they can deal with. Adding more mods isn't as simple as picking some names out of a hat, and this isn't a thing anyone was preparing for. There currently are no alternative moderation systems, everything is too new and until recently was all way to small for that to be important, and they just have more work then they can deal with trying to suddenly moderate all of the threadiverse.

This was a bad option that sucked, but every option was a bad option that sucked. I'm more concerned with how they deal with things as they normalize over the coming weeks and months than I am with how they're trying to put out the fires in the short term.

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Easily forseen if you knew that lemmy was suddenly going to have a hundred times as many users in the space of a couple weeks. That was the thing no one was prepared for though.

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lemmy.ml has a completely different idea of how it wants to be run. That happens to have been hurt a lot less by a sudden massive influx of new users, but that wasn't the reason it was different. What do you even think beehaw could have done that would have better given their goals?

Long and short term, which features would you like to see implemented?

For me flair is probably the most important. I follow a lot of organized sports and being able to quickly identify which team someone supports helps the conversation move along without having to write "as a fan of..." in every single comment. And this isn't a like talking shit, sports guy thing. It's genuinely extremely useful...

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Downvoting has always been used as an easy disagree button in every platform that has ever had it. Why not stop pretending it means something else and just embrace how it will inevitably be used anyway?

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You completely missed my point. Reddit pretends that downvotes aren't supposed to be used as an easy disagree button. That pretension is the behavior I want to leave behind. If we're going to have a downvote button at all, lets acknowledge how it will be used instead of pretending we can change human nature with an FAQ.

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It would be possible to change how people interact with a feature by changing how it's presented to them. I'm not sure what better UI there would even be to make people engage with downvotes how you want, but if someone comes up with a good idea I'm all for that. Until then I'd just like to not have us fight against the inevitable.

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$1 /month/user is clearly not enough. It's gotta be at least $2.50 /month/user if you want a decent experience, right? We'll definitely need to send a lot more to https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kbin

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If you subscribe to a community or magazine or whatever they call it on another instance and reply to a thread there it will appear in that thread for everyone who looks at that thread and is federated with your instance. There are some technical difficulties going on right now because of the massive influx of new people, but when things are working correctly it really doesn't make any meaningful difference whether the thread is on your instance or a completely different one. You are looking at the original thread, and other people can see your replies the same way they would see them from any other server.

There are also some differences in how Lemmy and kbin handle things, and we're in early days here, so expect a few bugs if you're checking out content from a Lemmy instance, but as a general rule in shouldn't matter what instance you're on as long as you aren't on some crazy server that encourages extremist or illegal stuff that ends up defederated from most of the Fediverse.

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Well, the microblog feature on kbin is sorted differently than Mastodon, but it's otherwise the same thing, to the point that you can even just follow Mastodon users with it. Technically everything on the Fediverse can interact to some degree, but it is very awkward to access Mastodon posts from Lemmy or Lemmy and kbin threads from Mastodon. It can be done, but it is a very suboptimal user experience.

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the Lemmy guys intentionally separated Lemmygrad from lemmy.ml for that very reason. Lemmygrad is for the crazy stuff, lemmy.ml is mostly pretty normal except for a weirdly pro-CCP slant to the moderation. As long as you don't use it for politics it's fine though.

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Honestly, I think that mostly means we need more kbin instances. I'd start one myself, but I have no money and terrible internet.

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