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@film_girl@mastodon.social

It's film_girl, but on Mastodon. I'm a Senior Developer Advocate at GitHub, a podcaster, a journalist turned developer and someone obsessed with tech, OSS, and pop culture.

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Simonscarfe, to random

Also, I didn’t realise how immature Bluesky was as a product. Hashtags still aren’t implemented, discovery is a mess. I have no idea where the little traction it has has come from.

(I’m not dismissing it offhand, btw - the more decentralised platforms available, the better)

film_girl,
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@Simonscarfe I mean, you’re correct but also by it’s own admission this still in alpha/beta. That’s why it’s invite-only for now.

film_girl,
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@Simonscarfe yah, that stuff is getting worked on I know, but it might be easier to implement some of the design/compose stuff. I’d like to see a roadmap too.

shantini, to random
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Whatever. I deleted it. I don’t have time to argue with people over semantics. I came on here to post about how I’ve overcome abuse and trauma by setting boundaries, and people want to spend their day arguing with me to death over word usage. I’m not here for that shit. I try to be transparent about mental health but there’s literally no incentive to do that.

film_girl,
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@shantini I missed this but fuck them.

dsilverman, to random
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For everyone who has ever discovered to their horror when switching to a new phone that Google Authenticator doesn’t store authentication data in the cloud (and by “everyone” I mean “me”), there’s wonderful news.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/24/23696058/google-authenticator-app-account-syncing-multiple-devices

film_girl,
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@captaintemerity @dsilverman yup, I’ve used that for years. I use 1P too but I still use Authy as my default 2FA app b/c it has a sync system!

atomicpoet, to random

I’m so confused!

At first @film_girl dismisses worries about defaulting to mastodon.social as “drama and virtue signaling”.

Then she says that migrating from mastodon.social to elsewhere has a big cost because you “can’t take your posts with you.”

Well, this is why mastodon.social shouldn’t be set as the default server to join: stuff like full text search aren’t supported on it, while that feature is supported on other servers.

This concern isn’t virtue signalling.

https://mastodon.social/@film_girl/110256874238800861

@steakfrite yeah, to do that, they’d have to be able to migrate posts from instance to instance, which right now is both not possible and the attempts to do that have been shut down (even by people who found solutions and wrote PRs). People pretend moving doesn’t have a cost, but it does. You can’t bring your posts with you.

film_girl,
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@atomicpoet both things can be true! You should have real data portability. That clearly wasn’t a design decision anyone valued at the beginning (and it still isn’t valued now) and it would make the whole “pick a server” thing less risky. But that doesn’t change that the experience for a new user is not good and figuring out sane defaults is a move in the right direction

It is drama and virtue signalling to treat defaulting on one client in one app as if it calamitously changing the project.

film_girl,
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@atomicpoet I’m not arguing that the current implementation is the ultimate solution. I think you could do some different things to try to help people find their home server if you wanted. But I do think leaning on sane defaults is going to lead to more people actually joining and then using Mastodon. And arguing against that b/c of some unfair “advantage” mastodon.social has, feels counterproductive.

film_girl,
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@atomicpoet I would agree with this! But I think right now, moving to a default in one app on one platform is a good step towards getting there! I don’t think randomizing servers based on some list is a better solution. A wizard or a collection organized easily by interest areas seems like a good idea! But the thing is, you’ll always have to make choices and leave options off a list. And that’s not a failure!

And frankly, if data portability mattered, a lot of this would be moot.

film_girl, to random
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Ok, I’m sorry. But this is the sort of drama and virtue signaling shit that will doom this place the same way every Linux on the Desktop effort outside of Ubuntu and SteamOS have been doomed. Getting angry b/c of a UX decision designed to help onboard users is what we call gatekeeping.

I’m a huge fan of FediTips so I don’t want to single them out. But this attitude, I’m sorry, it’s why this place doesn’t have any diversity of users. https://mstdn.social/@feditips/110233289512157360

film_girl,
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@vjgoh @steakfrite I’d put portability first too — but as I’ve shared, my bias is very much in the data portability camp. But if that isn’t coming/is more complicated, having a better user onboard flow is a good start.

film_girl,
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@rdr0b11 lol! Love what you did there!

film_girl,
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@danmac ding ding ding! If you’re teaching someone to swim, letting the get acclimated to the temperature of the water works s lot better than just pushing them into the deep end.

film_girl,
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@just_a_frog I don’t think the Instagram analogy works unless you’re going to acknowledge that the same way Instagram has a central authority that makes all product decisions, so too does Mastodon. I think we should acknowledge that Mastodon has a BDFL, but I don’t think it’s at all the same thing. This is about one decision in one application for one platform. This isn’t a default being foisted on every client or platform.

film_girl,
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@just_a_frog I think it’s gatekeeping b/c it’s a specific type of user saying that the onboarding and usability concerns don’t matter as much as the ideology and sense of purity that some self-selected users have dictated/bought into. There is a dismissiveness of anyone who sees a communication platform as just a communication platform that runs long in this space. An “us” versus “unwashed masses” attitude that I personally think is both toxic and antithetical to the goals of getting more users

film_girl,
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@just_a_frog I fully get that, but I guess my thing is, there are already people in charge and those people own servers. If you have a problem with that (which I can understand), the code is open source and it can be forked. And I don’t say that to be glib b/c forking is hard and I’m not suggesting that. But I am saying that’s what separates this from a proprietary situation. But being open and being decentralized doesn’t mean there hasn’t always been a centralized development team.

film_girl,
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@just_a_frog moreover, we’ve already seen some contentious arguments about moderation and what served federates with what and even about frontends. Which has led to stuff like Pleroma, Rebased, Fedibird, Soapbox, Glitch, Hometown and that’s off the top of my head. I think that’s a good thing, fwiw, that other implementations exist and I think it underscores that centralization fears, especially over one default in one app on one platform, seem overblown for now.

film_girl,
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@just_a_frog I mean, I think encouraging people to brigade an issue in a place where development discussion doesn’t even happen (it happens on Discord) b/c you’re unhappy with a design decision is shitty. I don’t know what else to tell you. That’s not engaging or lobbying devs. That’s trying to cause enough of a fuss to get your way.

film_girl,
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@just_a_frog you’re absolutely right that working together is way better than forking. But I don’t think brigading (and that’s exactly what it is when an account with 185,000 followers directs its followers to a specific issue to express their displeasure) is how you come to a solution.

film_girl,
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@just_a_frog I mean, my actual job is literally working with open source maintainers who use GitHub. I can tell you that for most maintainers, dealing with these kinds of issues (let alone issue brigades) is a huge PITA and time suck and not at all the same thing as a petition. If people won’t engage in the actual development Discord, writing blog posts and having discussions here strikes me as way better than trying to strongarm on the issue tracker. 1/2

film_girl,
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@just_a_frog if you really want to do something better, offer a solution in a PR and not just a screed. To be clear, one of the things I find frustrating about Mastodon is that actual PRs are often ignored or rejected. And the project can be critiqued for that. And like a lot of OSS projects, it’s way too insular. Critique that too. But no, sorry, directing everyone to add to an issue where you’re mad about something is a brigade.

film_girl,
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@just_a_frog I’m not opposed to people expressing their opinions. And even if I find it to be gatekeeping, I’m not saying no one can express their opinion. I just find this method and this tactic to be counterproductive.

film_girl,
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@donkey @Paxxi @grantlovescars indeed. I’m married to a car enthusiast. We just let each other be passionate about other things. Heh. But yes. Grant probably rubbing off on my analogies!

film_girl, to fediverse
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The one thing I do think the AT Protocol is better at than is data portability. Being built-in at the protocol layer so that you don’t have to do the migration shit (which doesn’t bring your posts) is better. It just is. I think ActivityPub has more potential overall for the social web beyond just Twitter clones, but that part of is better.

film_girl,
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@youronlyone I haven’t! Thanks for sharing!

film_girl,
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@cadence022 yeah. It was really disheartening to read through years of issues related to this ro see a ton of bikeshedding/excuses/justifications for why this was never a priority. And that’s fine. I know about dev cycles and constraints. But what makes me pause is that it is very clear this was never considered when designing Mastodon. Data portability was very much designed through the lens of the server admin/instance not the user.

film_girl,
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@cadence022 totally. Which is something I really appreciate about the design of the AT Protocol Bluesky is using!

film_girl, to internet
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Alright, it looks like is becoming Normie Mastodon, so I’ll have to actually use that account. I’m not leaving this place but I would like a good bridge, which I think already is in the works but does anyone have any details for people that might want to cross post?

film_girl,
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@Scubadiver it means more casual and less ideologically driven users are there. Some celebrities are there. Memes are there. It’s not any better, although they actually have quote tweets, it’s just a more smooth onboarding experience for people who were either overwhelmed by Mastodon or who signed up, couldn’t find anyone who wanted to talk about stuff other than the Fediverse and then stopped using it.

film_girl, to random
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They made a purple version of my office chair. I really wish I didn’t know this information. I’m obviously not going to buy another $1700 chair because that’s insane. But I want it.

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film_girl,
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@rosyna @kcappleguy yeah, I’m waiting for Atlas to release their Embody headsets too.

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