RememberUsAlways,
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GiacomoSansoni,
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@RememberUsAlways But... Can you at least make the effort to say where the second picture comes from?

martin,

@GiacomoSansoni Palestinians hold a kite adorned with a swastika that is carrying a bomb near the border with Israel east of Gaza City, on April 20, 2018. (AFP Photo/Mohammed Abed)

#^https://www.timesofisrael.com/holocaust-scholars-weigh-in-on-politicians-comparisons-of-hamas-to-nazis/

About 10 seconds googling.

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@martin @RememberUsAlways OK, so it's not in Columbia University, right?

martin,

@GiacomoSansoni Same antisemitism, same nazi garbage. I really do not see any difference. 🤷‍♂️
If you are asking, if the antisemites in Columbia University fly a kite with bombs, so no, not yet. Only attacking Jews verbally and physically. Like nazis 90 years ago.

GiacomoSansoni,
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@martin Do we happen to remember, by mere chance, where we might have read that?

martin,

@GiacomoSansoni What exactly do you mean? And if you ask rhetorically, don't hesitate and answer yourself. 🤷‍♂️

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@martin OK, I'll try to answer it myself https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/2024/04/22/statement-24-04-22/
But it's the opposite of what you're saying. The repression of protests that oppose a literal genocide seems to be disproportionately targeting Jewish protesters, maybe because the military-industrial complex likes minorities only when it can exploit them to oppress someone else.

martin,

@GiacomoSansoni OK, it's BS. I stop reading at the first mention of word "genocide". The war started by Gaza Strip is not genocide done by Israel. Period.

And if anybody is so stupid to do demonstrations against American Jews because there is war somewhere, it's question for psychiatrist. I call such stupid ppl as antisemites and/or nazis.

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@martin OK, so you want to wait for the genocide to have effectively been perpetrated before calling it genocide? That means you're giving up on any chance to stop it.
Also, we're talking about an alleged genocide that would be being perpetrated by the Israeli army, so why are you pretending that protests against that genocide are protests against American Jews? Bernie Sanders is Jewish and he opposes the genocide, Trump and Biden are gentiles and they're sending weapons to Israel

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@GiacomoSansoni
Hostages have the right to speak with the Red Cross.

Did you even read the ?

Israel has the right to rescue hostages using force.

As long as you take and hold a hostage, the longer you sacrifice YOUR human rights.

Now stop yelling genocide like you understand what it means.

@martin

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@RememberUsAlways @martin
That's not how it works. So, I'm asking you again a question that you have already ignored once: https://social.coop/@GiacomoSansoni/112325375552775292
do you think that that one provision of international law trumps all of the others (For example, the ones against collettive punishment)?

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@GiacomoSansoni
Yes because when you take hostage according to the law, you sacrifice your own human rights.

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@RememberUsAlways @martin OK, so to back up your claim you should show us pieces of legislation that explicitely allow collective punishment, the targeting of humanitarian convoys whose movements had been coordinated with the Israeli army, the targeting of journalists... If you claim that there are exceptions to all of these rules, you should show the exceptions explicitely written on paper

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@GiacomoSansoni

I'm not going to feed you anymore.

At some point, you'll have to read the law. I gave you the link:
https://legal.un.org/avl/ha/icath/icath.html

Read and learn why the UN made laws that say you can legally assassinate hostage holders.
Palestine is holding citizens.
We don't allow terrorists to take hostages.

Why should we allow Palestinians?

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@RememberUsAlways
Do you understand what I'm saying? You can't take a rule and baselessly assume that that one rule allows you to break all of the thousands of others. That's not how rules rule.
@martin

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@GiacomoSansoni
You don't understand the Geneva Conventions.

It's rules of WARFARE

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@RememberUsAlways @martin Yes, and based on those rules the ICJ said that it's plausible that Israel is currently committing genocide. Do you think you know those rules better than the ICJ?

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@GiacomoSansoni
The has had no trial. What did they do?
Issue a warning to to avoid mass killing. Feed people?

Let's have the trial. See what laws protect the HOSTAGES and Israel at WAR.

Now I've had enough of this educational lesson.

@martin

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