CharlesDarwin,
@CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world avatar

This is the right direction.

captainlezbian,

Oh shit, skipping the hell that is II

bartolomeo,

Weed.

(This is my 1,000th comment on Lemmy!)

BagOfHammers,

Indeed

htrayl,

This thread demonstrates the idealogical purism and lack of pragmatic political expectations from leftists and progressives. There is literally nothing the Biden admin can do that will ever be enough because it doesn’t match some rosy fucking dreamland that only lives in your heads. Descheduling is huge, and signals the end of 100 years of madness with cannabis laws. If you want more, then we need to have more legislative power to implement it.

This is a fucking win, dumbasses.

captainlezbian,

Yeah celebrate your wins or you may find yourself getting fewer

HawlSera,

Under Nixon, yes THAT Nixon, Congress wanted to pass UBI, but Democrats voted it down thinking it didn’t offer enough cash…

Even though common sense would tell you that establishing a UBI and raising it would be easier than getting a good paying UBI out of the gate

phoneymouse,

This is dumb. You’ve got thousands of recreational dispensaries all over the country. States are pretty much operating in violation of federal law already because the federal law is so out of touch. Maybe change the law to be more in line with what states are actually doing?

Do we get to wait another 50 years before they make recreational marijuana legal?

I don’t even smoke weed and I think this is dumb.

htrayl,

What you are suggesting is a legislative action. The nation needs to provide enough legislative power to happen.

sue_me_please,

The DEA has authority to schedule marijuana, it doesn’t require legislation.

HawlSera,

*80

phoneymouse,

Why do we even have a DEA? It’s like putting cops in charge of which medicine you should take. They aren’t the ones who should be making the calls here.

captainlezbian,

So that way disabled people know who’s boss

Like seriously as someone unable to function without prescription stimulants that’s how it’s always felt

HawlSera,

“We knew we couldn’t arrest people for being pro-civil rights or against the war, but by associating crack with black people and marijuana with hippies, we could disrupt their movements. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did!” - Paraphrasing of the Nixon Administration recounting the “Good ol’ days”

stringere,

associating crack with black people

Crack did not exist in at that time. The CIA didn’t flood black communities with it until the 80s.

ILikeBoobies,

The Enforcement part

You think doctors are going to be arresting addicts on the street? Then they are just cops

phoneymouse,

Why are we arresting addicts? If you want to arrest people for loitering or blocking the sidewalk, fine. But, arresting them for being an addict is asinine. How about we arrest people for having cancer while we are at it.

ILikeBoobies,

Relevance to picking who is enforcing the laws?

JasonDJ,

What does that mean for…my friend…that has to renew their security clearance?

Jimmyeatsausage,

Probably nothing immediately. The biggest advantages of rescheduling are in regard to federal sentencing guidelines and, imo more importantly, federal funding for research. Schedule 1 drugs (which MJ is currently) are defined as having no medical value, so research funding is practically impossible.

afraid_of_zombies,

I wonder if the UN will send another letter against this move.

unreasonabro,

Sounds like a half-assed fuck up, that’s still 6mo to 3y. For weed. still gonna go to jail, still get a record, still get your life ruined, still over fucking weed. The idea that jail is the appropriate punishment for drug addiction is utterly unjustifiable at this point, yet here we are, still pretending we’re something other than just wrong. Sunk cost fallacy I guess. Guess they felt they couldn’t just come out and do the right thing after having ruined tens(?) of thousands of lives for no reason

Asafum,

A prison sentence is a slave sentence, can’t give up that juicy juicy slave labor so easily.

:(

Maggoty,

Unfortunately Oregon just proved decriminalization needs a functioning healthcare system to support it.

vonbaronhans,

For weed I think we’d be fine.

Maggoty,

Oh yeah, absolutely. I’m sorry my brain is on empty today.

vonbaronhans,

No worries. Stay safe and sleep well.

Aecosthedark,

How did they prove that? (genuinely asking, not being sarcastic)

Maggoty,

They effectively did one without the other. From what I’ve been able to gather Oregon is actually one of the worst states for mental health and addiction care. Now of course they realized this and tried to appropriate money to deal with that. But they didn’t get enough and there was no lead time. They decriminalized before the new infrastructure was in place. So all of the aid groups and government health agencies that did exist were playing catch up the entire time. Imagine the crunch with the entire state emergency hiring counselors, trying to buy new buildings for safe use centers, and new inpatient centers; all at the same time.

So the net effect was people watched a drug problem get worse (because COVID did that all over the world) with less tools to deal with it than before. Instead of what they wanted to see, which would have been different tools to deal with it. In the end shutting it down and going back to arrests and courts became an easy case for Conservatives.

The lesson aid groups and governments should take away is not that decriminalization is bad. Just that they must have enough health infrastructure to deal with the problem because there’s a lot of people who would be in the prison system that are going to suddenly be in the health system. And a pandemic is a horrible time to make sweeping policy changes on anything but getting through the pandemic.

Aecosthedark,

You’re a legend, thanks for taking the time to reply, i appreciate it.

Liz,

I’m glad that you shared this, because it’s good to know the pitfalls when implementing changes in policy. I want a robust and easy access healthcare system anyway, but it’s good to know it’s a prerequisite for softening on drugs.

nytrixus,

Won’t solve the world’s problems but okay.

korny,

Not sure if anyone claimed it was going to solve the world’s problems by reclassifying this in the US, but you are correct.

ahriboy,
@ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Reclassification at the international level requires support from the international community. Singapore is against reclassification of cannabis due to proximity with the opium poppy-laden region called Golden Triangle.

bitwaba,

Your username is fucking incredible.

AstridWipenaugh,

Jimmy eats AU sage… Mmmm golden sage

Skanky,

Jim - my! (eats a us age)

dubyakay,

Or Australian.

Sam_Bass,

Cops will just latch onto something else even harder

JoMomma,

Like skin color?

Sam_Bass,

I was thinking more meth and/or heroin but hey

Beetschnapps,

If it’s like oxy and primarily affects white folks, they won’t do shit.

Also cops can’t get away with saying “I smelled heroin” as an excuse to terrorize minorities in a traffic stop like they historically did with grass.

You999,

Methamphetamine (Desoxyn) and heroin (Diacetylmorphine) are scheduled II drugs. I don’t think they will at least to the same level as Marijuana since it was previously classified as scheduled I (no medical use)

bquintb,
@bquintb@midwest.social avatar

About time

fluxion,

10 days too late

OpenPassageways,

Why?

cybersandwich,

4/20 joke

Ultragigagigantic,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

Abolish the DEA

Jimmyeatsausage,

And move the goalposts.

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