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Zaktor, to world in 13 sentenced to death for homosexuality in Yemen

Weird how the human rights record of Yemen is suddenly an important news topic right when the West is ramping up for military conflict with them. It must have just started, because otherwise this would be a cynical ploy to drum up support for war.

PugJesus,
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"Weird how when something is in the news, say for attacking civilian shipping in the most used sea lane in the world, it gets more scrutiny! I am going to attribute this to Imperialist Scheming(tm)"

OsrsNeedsF2P,

Why on earth are the terrorist organizationsUS military trying to go to war in Yemen?

spacesatan, (edited )

The houthi rebels are very anti queer so I assume the Yemeni and Saudi forces they’re fighting against must be very pro queer. i will not be looking into this further or wondering why the geopolitical enemies of the US always face more media scrutiny.

sharkfucker420,
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

Fed approved world view 👍

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

I’m pretty sure Saudi Arabia is anything but pro-queer.

Zaktor,

They’re being sarcastic. We’ll beat the drums about the Houthis persecution because we want people to be angry at them (and thus supportive of greater military action), but the Saudis do the same thing (plus murder American journalists) and our presidents give them hugs.

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Yikes.

dangblingus,

Lmao, Jamal Kashoggi, a Washington Post reporter, gets chopped up inside the Saudi Arabian embassy by Saudi hitmen and the US is like “Oh no! Anyway…”

Nacktmull,
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

You are right, but you are oversimplifying too. Pointing out human rights violations by enemy states has always been part of political propaganda, sure. However, this must not distract us from the seriousness of these human rights violations themselves.

Zaktor,

To do what exactly? Are we going to then do the same thing to Saudi Arabia, where we actually have some moral entanglements and some ability to influence?

There’s nothing someone in the West is supposed to do upon learning this fact. There’s no aid to withdraw or vacations to cancel to try to influence them to be less horrible. The only leverage is war.

JustZ,

So? The Houthis deserve war, frankly, their ideology is inconsistent with civilization.

BossDj,

This is from a Lebanese outlet. It’s full of pretty exclusively middle east news, and publically makes clear its agenda. The article was submitted by a frequent poster of a wide variety of World News from all over, commonly human rights violations. This guy particularly upped his posting game after explicitly saying he should post more after another prominent poster decided to take a break.

Also this is Lemmy. Nobody cares about us.

kescusay, to world in 13 sentenced to death for homosexuality in Yemen
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

Fucking horrific. This is 2024, and we’re still doing this shit? I have two - count 'em, two - LGBTQ+ kids, and I’m so goddamn glad we don’t live in a murderous shit-hole like that.

Altofaltception,

For now. Give the right wing enough time and power and they will get you there.

unexposedhazard, to world in Does the West only care about Syria when Israel strikes it?

It wasnt that anyone cared about Syria, it was that people cared about a consulate getting bombed. Doesnt matter where it is, you just dont do that.

i_have_some_enemies2, to world in Does the West only care about Syria when Israel strikes it?

I do not care even when Israel strikes it

safesyrup,

Why not?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The actual answer, no matter what they tell you, is a lack of empathy.

Altofaltception, to news in Israel counting half-full trucks of aid in 'boost' to Gaza

Well clearly the UN is antisemitic.

/S

shish_mish, to world in Health ministry in Gaza says war death toll at 33,091
@shish_mish@lemmy.world avatar

Plus all the people under the rubble.

nonailsleft,

They count dubble

AmidFuror, to world in Fight erupts between Rmeish residents and Hezbollah over missile launcher

"Green without Borders" stopped residents from chopping down trees and is "known to be affiliated with Hezbollah?" The last lines were very curious.

Lebanon is always on the brink of civil war.

hydroptic, (edited )

Based on some very quick searching, Israel has been claiming that Green Without Borders is a Hezbollah front group and has convinced eg. US Treasury Dept. to sanction them.

I’m not sure there’s any actual proof of this affiliation though, or whether this is the same sort of Israeli bullshit as we saw with the whole “UNRWA is Hamas” fiasco. I didn’t look too deep into it however so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

girlfreddy, to news in Dozens of Palestinian orphans transferred from Rafah to Bethlehem
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

Well well … look at Netanyahu, pretending he gives a shit what happens to Palestinian children now, after murdering thousands of them in the last 5 months.

Bookmeat,

Didn’t give him the credit. It’s unlikely he had anything to do with it and it happened in spite of his efforts.

jordanlund, to news in Dozens of Palestinian orphans transferred from Rafah to Bethlehem
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

a) Killing members of the group;
b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. <-You Are Here

zerog_bandit,

Zero discussion of who the legal guardian of the children is.

Zero discussion of whether the legal guardian approved the transfer.

Zero discussion of why it might be a good idea to get children out of a war zone.

Maybe pro-Hamas people just want Palestinian children to die? I dunno how else to interpret the comment above.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

If Israel really cared about Palestinian children, all they have to do is stop the bombing and stop restricting aid vehicles.

Hint - they don’t give two shits about Palestinian children.

zerog_bandit,

If the hostages were released, the war ends tomorrow.

catloaf,

Israel’s objective is to “eliminate Hamas”, so they say. But that’s in the same sense as Putin’s effort to “denazify Ukraine”. If they released the hostages, it would be one less barrier to Israel carpet-bombing all of Gaza.

Blumpkinhead,

For how long though?

jeena,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

We are pro human rights, not pro Hamas. I wonder where you stand on the whole human rights topic though.

Letstakealook,

They have zionist brain rot, we know where they stand.

zerog_bandit,

Typical pro Hamas comment.

zerog_bandit,

I’m absolutely for human rights. The human right, for example, to not be taken hostage and raped to death. But I guess you believe that human rights only exist for non-Israelis?

jeena,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

What I don’t understand is why you think that we could undo a terrible thing which happened to one innocent group of people by doing terrible things to another group of innocent people. This only perpetuates the cycle of violence and the only winners are those who build weapons.

prole,

It also completely ignores ~80+ years of violent oppression and occupation perpetrated against the Palestinian people… But yeah let’s just pretend that they’re all just savage monsters and their attack last fall was completely unprovoked.

prole,

Lol right.

TIMMAY, to world in 13 sentenced to death for homosexuality in Yemen

republicans probably get all hot and sweaty reading shit like this

Blackmist, to world in 13 sentenced to death for homosexuality in Yemen

Always amuses me to see the superleft LGBT tankie squad defending Yemen, Iran, etc, because they’re anti-west.

These places would literally burn them at the stake for existing.

Nudding,

Always amuses me to see people beating up strawmen.

Matriks404, to world in 13 sentenced to death for homosexuality in Yemen

No one should be sentenced to death for anything anywhere.

SidewaysHighways,

If we had a real true place to actually like, banish the ones who really couldn’t be taught to not be you know, like sadistic killers or some crazy CRAZY stuff I would totally agree with you. In a time where, say a benevolent AI could run an entire planet of habitual offenders of other’s rights and those people who (after repeated attempts at rehabilitation/therapy/education with all the correct and most up-to-date science about (whichever field in question)) can’t function in society without hurting other people can go BE. away from me then yes

I’d like to hope for a world where every affliction could be unlearned, or perhaps there is an environment where that kind of behavior can be tolerated (metamorphosis of prime intellect style)

But until then, on a finite planet, with individual beings… I’m not sure

EDIT: SHIT

Forgot where the heck I was and which post this was on. I got a little blazed and kept forgetting I was commenting this until I’d open my phone up.

NOT CONDONING THE FUCKING EXECUTION OF SOMEONE BASED ON WHAT HOLE THEY WANNA PLAY WITH

Specal,

The problem people have with the death penalty isn’t that they disagree a serial child rapist should be executed. It’s that people get falsely sentenced. It happens, it always has happened, it always will happen.

soggy_kitty,

Hitler?

sue_me_please,

There’s a reason he took the coward’s way out. Would have been much better to have held him accountable until the day he dies.

ipkpjersi,

This is true, but it also immediately ends the threat or risk of more damage by him. He can never have a prison break or be broken out of prison or anything because he is gone forever.

Cold_Brew_Enema, to world in 13 sentenced to death for homosexuality in Yemen

*Republicans salivate

samus12345,
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  • pineapplelover, to world in 13 sentenced to death for homosexuality in Yemen

    Some people still think they have “nothing to hide” because they’re not doing anything wrong.

    Seleni,

    Yup. The problem is the definition of ‘not doing anything wrong’ can change very dramatically very fast, depending on who is in charge.

    cows_are_underrated,

    Relevant picture i saw some time ago here on lemmy:

    https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/ac53fe3c-4378-4b97-a8fb-6f031b0daa6a.png

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