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Riccosuave, to politics in Georgia GOP Gears Up to Remove Atlanta Prosecutor Who Indicted Donald Trump
@Riccosuave@lemmy.world avatar

We already know from Pudding Rob’s actions in Florida that these kind of laws are going to be used to:

  • Allow the executive or legislative branches to override the judiciary, thereby functionally eliminating the separation of powers
  • Override democracy by removing duly elected officials at the sole discretion of one person (Florida), or by another unelected body (Georgia)
  • Create a legal fiefdom where the executive or legislative branches can determine the outcome of judicial matters through sheer fiat by removing prosecutors who do not align with their intended outcomes, and then hand selecting those who do

Party of “Law and Order” my fucking ass…

PunnyName,

That’s because “law and order” always meant “arrest black people”.

aseriesoftubes,

That’s completely unfair.

They’re happy to indiscriminately arrest brown people too.

Kofu,
@Kofu@lemmy.ml avatar

They arrest Brown, murder Black.

be_excellent_to_each_other,
be_excellent_to_each_other avatar

Don't forget the poors.

frezik,

Coincidentally, they also like to make sure black people are poor.

be_excellent_to_each_other, (edited )
be_excellent_to_each_other avatar

Coincidentally, they also like to make sure black people are poor.

I seriously don't understand the folks who don't get this.

First we had slaves.

Well, they say, US slavery ended with the civil war.

Even IF it were reasonable to say that slavery ended, and therefore the ripples it sent forward in time aren't still being felt, there are two things that are true - One: We didn't root out those who most staunchly refused to relinquish it and enact power structures to encourage equity going forward.

Well, they say, the confederate states were physically and economically destroyed by the end of the war.

And to that I say, "Andrew Johnson."

Two: We as a nation enacted laws and social norms that turned black folks into a permanent underclass, and have been dogwhistling about it for a century.

Well, they say, No we didn't.

Yes, we did. Jim Crow, separate but equal, the origin of most controversial confederate monuments and statues, the very existence of Sundown Towns, and The Negro Motorist's Green Book, the foundation of the State of Oregon, and events such as the Tulsa race massacre, are all factual details about our country.

These inflection points on our nation's psyche persisted at least through the passage of the civil rights act, and some feel Sundown Towns exist even today. These laws and social norms influenced legislative policy, police and justice department culture, and generations of Americans both white and black people.

How one can acknowledge all that and not be impressed at the degree to which African-Americans have succeeded, and also humbled by how they have been wronged, held back, and live to this day in a system founded on excluding them is beyond me. But more importantly than that, to deny that there is still an impact seems willfully ignorant.

Sorry for the rant. I didn't set out to write it, but there it is.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

As well as LGBTQ people, and anyone else in the “out group”.

StarServal,
StarServal avatar

Law and order is, and was always, just another tool in their arsenal to be used against their opponents. It has never been about fairness or justice to them.

CoderKat,

Now now, it’s more general than that. In between shooting black people, they also love to use their laws on other things they don’t like, such as other people’s abortions (not their own, mind you – that’s different), LGBT people, and immigrants (especially scary turban men).

Fredselfish,
@Fredselfish@lemmy.world avatar

And that governor is responsible for that law. Kemp fucked us.

They will remove her probably try get her charged and then work to have someone who will make this case go away.

If this happens and the people of Georgia or hell all of us to rise up and put stop to it.

Then might as well hand the country over to the fascist because that would have won.

This must not be allowed. But I knew the GOP would find away to protect Trump.

Burn_The_Right, to news in The FBI Is Hunting a New Domestic Terror Threat: Abortion Rights Activists

Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Every single word. Anyone who protests against their oppression is labelled a “terrorist” while nearly every act of domestic terror ever committed in U.S. history has been by conservatives.

Never, ever trust a conservative. Never.

unnecessarygoat,

Username checks out

UFODivebomb,

"nearly every act of domestic terror ever committed in U.S. history has been by conservatives. " This factually true statement should be repeated regularly but for “some reason” the media is afraid to do so.

UFODivebomb,

Ooo a down vote. I wonder if it was from a right wing cuck. Gonna claim Aunt tifa?

superkret,

I’m active with Antifa but this comment is just cringe. This isn’t reddit.

UFODivebomb,

shrug I like mocking the fools who think right wing violence does not exist. Take that how you will

superkret,

The part that’s cringe is reacting to downvotes at all.
Just go to your settings and disable showing the votes, it makes everything better.

UFODivebomb,

Lol nah. I have more fun this way. Don’t give a shit if you think it’s cringe

Silverseren, to world in Joe Biden Moves to Lift Nearly Every Restriction on Israel’s Access to U.S. Weapons Stockpile

This article is inaccurate or at least misleading in its title presentation. It's reporting on something that happened on October 20th, as the second paragraph notes, and was never actually enacted. In fact, Biden moved back from this and has been instead moving to restrict all weaponry sales to Israel in the past few days.

Biden has not been in any form of good light in my eyes in the past two months, but please don't spread fake or misleading information like this.

Stamau123,

Based on the discussion here it seems rhe damage is already done

Silverseren,

That's clearly the point for articles like this to even be written. There's no defense for a title like that when it's referring to something from a month ago that wasn't even enacted.

Cinner,

A lie travels halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on.

Since that quote was written long before the Internet, the lie has now been round the world 20 times and has multiple reaction videos before the truth can even find its boots.

Riccosuave,
@Riccosuave@lemmy.world avatar

I appreciate you taking a step back and contextualizing because I embarrassingly did miss that part when I was reading this article. Another reminder of the importance of media literacy. However, I still find it both problematic and disappointing that this had ever been proposed at all. I’m tired of the Team America World Police act.

Rolder,

I always find the whole world police thing to be perplexing. People complain if America intervenes but they also complain if they don’t intervene.

Stamau123,

Don’t be embarrassed, at least you came back and admitted you missed something

YoBuckStopsHere, to politics in Georgia GOP Gears Up to Remove Atlanta Prosecutor Who Indicted Donald Trump
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds like obstruction of justice.

PunnyName,

Sounds like the continuation of a coup.

InisSieferI,

It's never stopped after all.

matchphoenix,

Sounds like more individuals to indict with RICO charges

hddsx,

Is it RICO if these are all separate people committing crimes of their own accord?

PeleSpirit,

I’m not a lawyer, but from the way the indictment was written it sounded like it was the mission that included you in the group, not the main person.

BillTheTailor,

That’s how RICO works: you don’t have to have committed the actual crime, but if your actions materially contributed to the commission of the crime, that’s considered pretty much the same thing.

TechnoBabble,

The Georgia GOP is going to get itself caught up in federal RICO charges at this rate.

I wonder how that would work.

PersnickityPenguin,

What if the Florida GOP make a RICO reversal law?

Railing5132,

Uno reverse! (I don’t know how to link/post images)

negativenull,

If it’s done to perpetuate a conspiracy, maybe

Wilibus,

I’m sure Trump’s attorney would say no.

Kalkaline,

Sounds like we should be sharpening the pitchforks.

CADmonkey,

Nah, leave them dull.

And rusted.

lemann,

More pain, just how they like it… when it doesn’t affect them.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

Where might one purchase ^^metaphorical tar?

(I’m good on ^^metaphorical feathers)

PersnickityPenguin,

I’ve got a hole in my yard filled with it, I used to dump motor oil in there.

Don’t forget the feathers!

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

Following the old popsci article I see lol

Burn_The_Right,

Retaliation is a crime.

HelixDab2,

Legally? No.

Obstruction is a legal charge. Since what they’re doing would be legal–since they wrote the law–it can’t be obstruction.

theodewere, to politics in Jimmy Carter: The U.S. Is an “Oligarchy With Unlimited Political Bribery”
theodewere avatar

because Americans are too ignorant and proud to recognize con-men

Tigbitties,
Tigbitties avatar

And too proud to realize they've been had.

midori,

Not all of us.

NewNewAccount,

But enough of us.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
Semi-Hemi-Demigod avatar

Ain’t democracy grand? Ten people vote not to drive over a cliff, eleven people vote to drive over it, and everybody dies because them’s the rules.

markr,

Well also the torrent of money being spent to on propaganda to keep us utterly delusional has some role in this.

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

the real problem is the ease with which we can pass blame to other causes

Yawweee877h444,

Almost completely unaware of how to solve the problems meaningfully.

Disillusioned with the legal voting process as being completely ineffectual to solve the problems, or any important problem for that matter. Our politics feels like more of a distraction than anything.

Way too depressed and overworked and burnt out to try to think/work on any actual meaningful way to solve these extremely substantial and challenging problems.

So unfortunately, I just live one day at a time, enjoy the little things, and wait until it’s time to die.

I honestly don’t think we’re going to get any meaningful change without extreme violence, extreme longterm hardship, and lots and lots of death and pain. But what do I know?

markr,

They want you to believe voting is useless. It isn’t. It remains the only effective peaceful strategy to reform the system. But you have to vote, and you have to participate and demand representation.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
Semi-Hemi-Demigod avatar

I’ve been voting for 24 years. When will it start working?

brezel,
brezel avatar

i think there really is a crisis regarding democracy (especially in the US but also in europe). it is very difficult to get enough media coverage and visibility unless you are a millionaire of friends with millionaires. it's almost like a closed club. i think what exacerbates the problem is that many americans view being a millionaire als being successful whereas in other places people who are excessively rich are rather viewed as reckless or corrupt.

Sanctus, to brainworms in Jimmy Carter: The U.S. Is an “Oligarchy With Unlimited Political Bribery”
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Its extremely obvious. “Oh, these? These aren’t bribes. They’re uh, free speech! Yeah! And companies speak in money so this is their free-”
Shut the fuck up.

drekly,

What are bribes? You mean lobbying? Totally different thing, look, the words have totally different letters!

Rentlar,

“Why are there bribes coming out of your Congress and Supreme Court, Seymour?”

“Uh! …Ohh, those aren’t bribes! It’s speech! Speech from the free speech we’re having. Mmmm, free speech!”

door slams “Phew”…🏃‍♂️🎼🎵🎵🎵🎶

NewNewAccount,

Citizens United is one of the worst decisions in the history of the Supreme Court.

Sanctus,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Its absolute evil. I can’t believe us citizens haven’t burned it to the ground in a fit of rage. Its blatant fucking bribery. I’m seein’ red just typing this post.

TheFriar, (edited ) to socialism in Israel Responds to Hamas Crimes by Ordering Mass War Crimes in Gaza

Finally a measured and logical response. Living in NYC and browsing lemm.ee, I’ve only been hearing the most atrocious and absurd takes coming from the largely emotional jewish population attending protests in the city (where I’ve heard things such as, “if israel stops fighting, there will be no more israel. But if Palestine stops fighting, there will be peace.” Which is…fucking delusional) and the e-communists that make up lemm.ee (where it’s been all immature contrarianism and disgusting, true-to-form rape apologism like, “all of those israelis were going to be or have been conscripted [so the rape and torture is a-ok]!”)

Why can’t people be human first and allegiant to their political identity second? Hamas did something horrible—their anger and frustration are understandable, but their methods do not represent the people of Palestine nor are they justifiable. But Israel has been committing genocide. I understand that Jewish people he world over have been and are still the victims of deep-rooted antisemitism, and those roots spread far and wide and are sometimes hard to detect. But that does not serve as a justification for Israel’s actions, just like Hamas’ understandable anger does not make what they do and have done okay.

This is obviously a complicated issue…but that should mean everyone keeps their thoroughly binary opinions fuckin quiet because even the nuance of admitting there is justification for resistance (while pointing out that there is a largely secular Palestinian population, and that hamas is an Islamic group that was funded by israel in the 80s) while not approving of the methods on display here, while knowing israel is an occupying force that is committing genocide while using antisemitism as a shield against criticism (while also pointing out that antisemitism is in itself a nuanced issue that most people don’t understand)….and that’s barely scratching the surface while ignoring large parts of the issue…so, my point is…Jesus. I dunno. It’s fuckin complicated and people have been awful in jumping online to put their two cents in.

ech,

Where on lemme.ee are you seeing things like that? I admittedly mostly browse all, but the local feed is mostly art in my experience, though maybe I’ve just already blocked the stuff you’re talking about.

TheFriar,

Elchapotraphouse, all the communist communities. The amount of insane shit flooding my timeline is fuckin bonkers. But it’s also probably my fault. I can’t help myself and when I see something gross and the comment section is equally awful…I jump in and say that just that. Their go-to rebuttal is “LIBRUL!!!” but just stop responding when I tell them I’m an anarchist. Which goes to show just how contrarian heir opinions truly are. It’s adolescent rebellion against “NoRmALz!” and it ends there.

ech,

Ah, that is not a community on lemm.ee. It’s from hexbear.net. That lemm.ee hasn’t defederated from them is certainly not great, imo, but the stuff coming from that instance isn’t representative of lemm.ee itself. Fwiw, you can block the community to clear up your feed if it’s really causing issues. And in update 19 for Lemmy, they’re purportedly bringing in the ability to block entire instances.

detectivemittens,

The problem here is that people often conflate Israel and Judaism as one and the same, when that’s absolutely not the case. You can have problems with how Israel operates as a nation without being antisemitic. It’s hard to have any nuanced conversations about Israel and Palestine if you don’t grok this.

foggy, to news in The FBI Is Hunting a New Domestic Terror Threat: Abortion Rights Activists

If you’re pre-born, you’re fine, if you’re pre-schooled, you’re fucked. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. Pro-life, these people aren’t pro-life, they’re killing doctors, what kind of pro-life is that? What, they’ll do everything they can do save a fetus, but if it grows up to be a doctor they just might have to kill it?

-George Carlin

style99,
style99 avatar

Have you noticed that most of the women who are against abortion are women you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place, man? There's such balance in nature.

FaceDeer, to news in Years After #MeToo, Defamation Cases Increasingly Target Victims Who Can’t Afford to Speak Out
FaceDeer avatar

It's a tricky thing. This article seems biased toward the assumption that all accusations are valid, but you can't assume that in real life. The article actually does bring up the Amber Heard case, but ignores the fact that Amber Heard's accusations really were defamation and simply talks about how the fact that she lost will embolden other people accused of abuse to defend themselves as well.

The article says:

Being labeled as a harasser or rapist carries more reputational damage than it used to, thanks to . This is a way for abusers to try to claw back that lost status.

Sure, but it's also a way for the falsely accused to clear their names.

There's likely no "perfect" solution for any of this, but IMO this sort of thing is just further pressure to try to make the justice system work better in general. If it wasn't so burdensome defending yourself against lawsuits then there wouldn't be this problem with "victims who can't afford to speak out."

BrikoX, to globalnews in American Medical Missions Trapped in Gaza, Facing Death by Dehydration as Population Clings to Life
@BrikoX@lemmy.zip avatar

Relatives of the doctors were told by the State Department that rescue efforts were underway, including through coordination with the United Nations and the Israel Defense Forces. Yet on Monday, the Israeli military fired on a United Nations vehicle that was traveling to the European Hospital in Khan Younis, near Rafah, killing a U.N. employee and injuring another.

Yeah, I wouldn’t trust IDF to rescue anyone. IDF is only capable of mass murder. They are literally bombing their own civilian hostages because it’s acceptable loss. They must have gotten US playbook, not only weapons with all that military aid.

rockSlayer,

Netanyahu is going to “accidentally” kill a US soldier transporting aid in the strip. I like to imagine the full brunt of the carrier group is deployed, but it’s going to be more finger wagging. The 3 killed in Jordan is proof, I think.

xenomor, (edited ) to politics in Israel “Likely” Used U.S.-Supplied Weapons in Violation of International Law. That’s OK, Though, State Department Says.

The US is an active, willing and enthusiastic partner in these war crimes and in all likelihood many others that haven’t been reported yet. Let’s not pretend that the state department has any authority to investigate Israel’s actions.

tla, to politics in Israel “Likely” Used U.S.-Supplied Weapons in Violation of International Law. That’s OK, Though, State Department Says.

Israel is not blocking humanitarian aid and yet hundreds of aid lorries wait at the border crossings?

mhague,

Is it just me or does the report state that Israel is blocking aid? The legalese might make a distinction between ‘technically blocking aid’ and ‘doing everything in your power to slow, delay, and otherwise mitigate aid’… but that’s exactly what a layperson would call blocking aid.

They have to choose words carefully lest they accidentally trigger some process. But they did just describe what a smarmy country does to block aid while maintaining plausible (big stretch of the word) deniability.

IndustryStandard,

I do not understand this either

I read " yes Israel committed war crimes but also we are not sure if Israel committed war crimes."

bolexforsoup, (edited ) to news in After Raids, NYPD Denied Student Protesters Water and Food in Jail

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Linkerbaan, to news in With Netanyahu Threatening Rafah Invasion, Biden Prepares to Send Israel More Bombs
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

A recent U.S. intelligence estimate indicated that Israel’s current weapons stockpiles only enables it to wage war against Gaza for an additional 19 weeks

For all the people who claimed that israel doesn’t need the US for their Genocide, this is a pretty important indication that the bombs used to kill Palestinians aren’t being summoned out of thin air.

If Biden actually cared he would use these weapons as leverage to demand a two state solution.

queermunist,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

Anyone who actually cares needs to know the two state solution isn’t real. It’s a red herring.

There’s only a one state solution: a multi-ethnic and multi-religious democracy, from the river to the sea.

Nomecks,

There’s also a zero state solution, which is likely. Israel may succeed in ending Palestine, but they will have sacrificed any long-term security they have. If foreign aid ever stops, which I’d say is highly likely within the next 50 years, the rest of the middle east will destroy Israel. Unless the Israeli government can be convinced to pivot on their actions, this is probably an unavoidable scenario.

spider,

If Biden actually cared

Speaking of which, I also fear another Sept. 11.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

The Houthi’s are doing an amazing job by blockading the Red Sea. They’ve disrupted the entirety of global trade without killing a single person. And it’s putting a ton of pressure on America and Europe to actually do something about their Genocide.

The Arab world has been doing an outstanding job on not targeting civilians but military targets.

bradorsomething,

A few drones in certain parts of indonesia hitting ships, and we have a world trade collapse very quickly

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Good thing America is installing a military dictator in Indonesia

“America’s Fair-Haired Boy,” Notorious Mass Murderer, on Brink of Indonesian Presidency

SpaceCowboy,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

Or maybe use the weapons to demand Hamas release the hostages? Which is exactly what he’s doing.

Oh, you forgot about the hostages?

Besides holding back on weapons means Israel just uses less accurate home-made bombs. Take out a city block instead of just one building.

They’re going to get those hostages back one way or another. Maybe tell your Hamas friends to release them so Israel won’t go into Rafah?

We’re entering the endgame now, so how many people will Hamas let die before they come out of the tunnels and fight like men?

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Israel killed three hostages wearing a white flag lol.

The IDF doesn’t care about hostages. Israel wants to kill all hostages as it’s the only leverage against them.

youtu.be/CvT7nlSNm4s

SpaceCowboy,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

Never heard the term friendly fire before? It’s a war soldiers fuck up, bad things happen.

There’s a reason for the expression “War is Hell,” children. God damn Hamas for starting this war.

Crow_Thief,

LMAO, thank you for finding the most succinct way possible to prove you dont have a clue what youre talking about - “hamas started this war”.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

New video from GDF explains how the IDF intentionally shot many of their own civilians with israeli witness testimonies.

youtu.be/fCjTki-OgKQ

mightyfoolish,

Israel blew those people up. They are gone.

Crow_Thief,

Israel literally kills their own hostages and doesnt give one shit about it. To be clear, Hamas is the good guys in this war. And the idea that the modern day equivalent of the nazis would stop doing their genocide over a few hostages they freely blow up themselves is simply brain dead.

jordanlund, to politics in Dem Senator Calls Israeli Leadership “War Criminals,” Votes to Send Them $14 Billion Anyway
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Well sure, because it tied aid to Ukraine with aid to Israel.

You expect them to tell Ukraine to pound sand because there’s also money for Israel?

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

The moment Genocide becomes a tradeoff is when the Realpolitik should end.

IronCorgi,

I'm all about stopping the genocide in Gaza, that being said voting this down the bill would just add a genocide in Ukraine. Best we can hope for is harm reduction.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

I’m pretty confident that voting down israel’s free weapons will stop their Genocide quite swiftly.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Nah, because they don’t NEED our weapons or money to do it. They’d do it regardless. They have plenty of weapons and money of their own.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

When they don’t need it we’re sure adamant in giving it.

A lot of their heaviest weapon systems are American, such as the F35. Many Iron dome missles also partially get resupplied by America.

Even cutting off spare parts is a big deal. Israel’s in house production is mostly ground vehicles and some drones.

Israel is not a self sustaining country.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

We’re adamant in giving aid because the politicos need the donations, not because Israel needs the money or the weapons.

www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus?ind=Q05

Politicians bring in MILLIONS of dollars in donations by supporting Israel. That’s really all there is to it.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Here’e the real problem:

Israel could exterminate every Palestinian tomorrow and there would be no long term ramification from it, for Israel or anyone else.

Allowing Putin to roll over Ukraine emboldens him and puts a target on every other former Soviet block country.

Allowing Russia to continue doing what they’re doing is an order of magnitude more dangerous than allowing Israel to continue doing what they’re doing.

In terms of human crisis? Yes, both should be stopped. In terms of Global World Order? Stopping Russia is paramount. Stopping Israel? Well, maybe, if we throw another 100 UN resolutions at them telling them “No, illegal, no! Bad, bad, bad!”

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

You’d think so but apparently there’s a blockade on the Red Sea and israel is trying to start WW3 in the middle east.

The myth of “nobody is standing up for Palestinians” has been dispelled. The question is how much resistance America is asking for.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

The other Arab countries could stand up for the Palestinians if they really wanted to, Egypt could offer them a home, so could Jordan, Syria or Saudi Arabia. Lebanon is too small as it is so that’s not a real ask.

They could have done this at any point since 1948 and have chosen not to.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

They already taken quite a lot of Palestinian refugees so factually that doesn’t check out.

And suggesting Ethnic Cleansing of a population as a solution is euhhh…

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Taking in refugees and offering a homeland are different things. ;) The US takes in refugees too, but nobody is offering up land to replace what’s been stolen from them.

PugJesus,
PugJesus avatar

Yes, these self-proclaimed 'leftists' would love to see Ukraine exterminated.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I really don’t think it’s necessarily that. I think for a lot of them it’s about not getting exactly what they want. There is absolutely no way that Republicans would have gotten on board with a Ukraine funding bill without funding Israel.

I don’t want Israel getting a U.S. dime either, but Ukraine’s situation is desperate and Israel is committed to this genocide whether we fund them or not.

PugJesus,
PugJesus avatar

You have a lot more confidence in them than I do. When every instance of not getting exactly what one wants ends with a call for everyone to suffer, one eventually begins to suspect other motivations.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’m using Hanlon’s razor here. It’s not exactly stupidity that I’m attributing this to… more vanity mixed with naivety.

Uranium3006,
Uranium3006 avatar

you conflate "literally anything" with "getting exactly what they want"

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

In what way? Wouldn’t ‘literally anything’ include this deal?

djsoren19,

eh, don’t look at lemmygrad or hexbear as your example of leftists. We’re still gonna grumble, and this senator could have afforded a no vote like his comrades as a real show of support, but everyone not bought by Russian influence knows how important the defense of Ukraine is.

This whole thing is political theater anyway, the Trumpublicans in the House will die before they let useful legislation be passed.

PugJesus,
PugJesus avatar

Hence why I said self-proclaimed, and put leftists in quotes.

This whole thing is political theater anyway, the Trumpublicans in the House will die before they let useful legislation be passed.

Wouldn't be so sure. We only need a handful of them in order to make a credible threat of a motion to vacate.

AllonzeeLV,

We’re drenched in the blood of non-combatant Palestinians we’re helping to murder more of to do that noble thing, so it isn’t cut and dry.

Geopolitically and strategically it makes sense because of our tangible interests of holding the line of Russian aggression, just like licking Saudi Ass as we do, but ethically it isn’t defensible. We passed a law saying we’ll pay (more) to murder (more) helpless innocents that are irrelevant to our interests, in order to save other innocents whose self-defense aligns with our geopolitical interests.

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