publicvoit, 6 months ago

After failing so hard with LibreOffice, I'm now trying to accomplish the same task with #Inkscape.

Finished within 15 minutes after finding out how layers, Bezier courves and text is working.

folfdk, 6 months ago

@publicvoit

Inkscape is an amazing piece of software!

I've used it for so many things, on Linux even with automation, referring to external images that change based on a script, which then exports the result from Inkscape, without running the GUI.

publicvoit, 6 months ago (edited 6 months ago)

@folfdk Yes, Inkscape is a great tool. However, for adding arrows to a JPEG image, I'd assume that I don't need a vector-based tool but rather a pixel-oriented tool such as GIMP or Draw.

GIMP doesn't have easy to find tools for adding polygons and manipulating them. So I tried Draw. But then I got stuck and you know the rest already.

2023-11-13 Edit: Draw is not pixel-oriented! It's also vector-oriented just like Inkscape.

flowolf, 6 months ago (edited 6 months ago)

@publicvoit @folfdk I use Inkscape for that as well. Insert/Import the pixel graphic put it to the bottom layer. add vectors on top. export to a pixel graphic.

this is how most of the Grazer Linuxtage posters I created were made...

publicvoit, 6 months ago

@flowolf @folfdk Good to know. So I'll keep that workflow for similar tasks then.

erAck, 6 months ago

@publicvoit
#LibreOffice #Draw is not a pixel-oriented tool, Draw is vector-oriented. The pixel image you loaded with Draw became just one object on the Draw page, hence got selected whenever you clicked on it.

@folfdk

publicvoit, 6 months ago

@erAck @folfdk Sorry, Draw is vector-oriented, right.

Inkscape as well. 😉

stragu, 6 months ago

@publicvoit

• The first issue is tracked in bug https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113130 (I've just updated it). The current workaround is to de-select the image before tracing.
• Layer sidebar is requested in: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56498
• Changing the font size should be possible from the Properties sidebar deck, Character section. Does that not work for you?

In any case, I agree with others here that other tools might be more suited for a quick edit. I like ksnip for quick screenshot annotation.

Thanks!

publicvoit, 6 months ago

@stragu I had the assumptions that Draw has to be much more mature by now.

murpunktat, 6 months ago

@publicvoit edit screenshots and make arrows, boxes and such directly with https://flameshot.org/

boris, 6 months ago

@publicvoit ich stosse mit LibreOffice Draw auch oft an die Grenzen, aber bin so dankbar für diese freie Office-Suite! Sie ist frei und kann von jedem genutzt werden, ohne Einschränkung, ohne dass sie nach Hause telefoniert, ohne Cloud Zwang.

Ich schaue einem geschenkten Gaul nicht ins Maul, sondern striegle und pflege ihn, auf dass er besser und schöner wird. (Bugs melden, Change Requests erfassen und im Rahmen meiner Möglichkeiten auch mal ein Pull Request.

publicvoit, 6 months ago

@boris Agreed. Allerdings war ich schon sehr überrascht, dass Draw so dermaßen unbrauchbar für diesen relativ simplen Anwendungsfall war.

Für WYSIWYG Textverarbeitung oder Excel-like Spreadsheets nutze ich nur LibreOffice - wenn Org-mode mal nicht reichen sollte.

Neurotransmitter, 6 months ago

@publicvoit perhaps owner manual used?

publicvoit, 6 months ago

@Neurotransmitter I'd agree if we would talk about a special purpose software for professionals.

However, for somebody who just wants to draw some arrows on images with the app I'd recommend for ordinary computer users, I'd say my use-case should work without a particular learning phase.

My learning: I'll not recommend Draw to other people any more without a certain warning attached.